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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I just looked into a little further--it's an acknowledged estate and can be created directly by deed, apparently. Am.Jur. cites an Illinois case that I find
only tangential to the point. But the citations as to meaning of life estate in general all seem to agree that it's a freehold estate on the life of the grantee
<u>or</u> some other person's measuring life. So pur autre vie doesn't seem to be an exceptional condition.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">12 Am.Jur. Legal Forms 2d Sec. 166:10 is for a deed for life estate pur autre vie:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">"Grantor grants the described real property to [name of life tenant] for the natural life of [name of person other than life tenant]."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">28 Am.Jur.2d Estates Sec. 60 says:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">An estate held during the life of another person is known as an estate for or during the life of another or an estate pur autre vie.1 An estate per autre vie
may arise through the assignment of an estate by a life tenant,2 or may be created by deed or by will, or brought into existence by the provisions of a will, deed, or other instrument under consideration.3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">East Kentucky Energy Corp. v. Niece, 774 S.W.2d 458 (Ky. Ct. App. 1989); Berrett v. Standard Fire Ins. Co., 166 Md. App. 321, 888 A.2d 1189 (2005), judgment
aff'd, 395 Md. 439, 910 A.2d 1072 (2006); Thompson v. Baxter, 107 Minn. 122, 119 N.W. 797 (1909); Thompson v. Gearheart, 137 Va. 427, 119 S.E. 67, 35 A.L.R. 36 (1923).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Berrett v. Standard Fire Ins. Co., 166 Md. App. 321, 888 A.2d 1189 (2005), judgment aff'd, 395 Md. 439, 910 A.2d 1072 (2006); Howell v. Howell, 122 Ohio St.
543, 8 Ohio L. Abs. 337, 172 N.E. 528, 71 A.L.R. 1182 (1930).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Schaffenacker v. Beil, 320 Ill. 31, 150 N.E. 333 (1925).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Eric<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Eric C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David Faber<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 19, 2017 2:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Life Estate Pur Autre Vie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for emailing me back, Eric. I emailed the list because I couldn't find a single piece of caselaw on Westlaw, but Washington Practice does reference the
<i>pur autre vie</i> form as being valid. My biggest concern was the same that you have: whether it is possible for former partner's daughter to create from
<i>fee simple</i> a new life estate for herself measuring against her father's life. On its face, I don't see why a vested gift of a future interest would not be legitimate, but this being the first time I would have even
<i>heard</i> of someone actually creating a life estate <i>pur autre vie</i> in Washington, I am just a bit gun-shy. I would love to hear from anyone else on the list who has run across this situation.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Eric Nelsen <<a href="mailto:Eric@sayrelawoffices.com" target="_blank">Eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Another thought--on re-reading your scenario, I don't know if it's possible to create a life estate
pur autre vie as an initial matter. Usually it's created by conveyance to the grantee measuring life (or reservation to the grantor who is the measuring life), and then the estate holder transfers the life estate to another. Usually what can be done in two
steps is also allowed in a single step, but I haven't seen that particular scenario.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Nelsen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 18, 2017 5:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Life Estate Pur Autre Vie</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I haven't done one but so far as I'm aware it's a valid estate in Washington; life estates are definitely
permitted here, and are transferable, so pur autre vie must be allowed as well. If you find case law on it, please post to list!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>David Faber<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> wsbarp<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBARP] Life Estate Pur Autre Vie</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hey folks! I got an interesting one today. My client gave her former partner her interest in their family home when they broke up. The former partner then quitclaimed the home to
his daughter, mostly for medicaid planning purposes. The former partner and daughter now are interested in ensuring that, upon former spouse's death, my client's receive title to the family home, with the caveat that the former partner does not want the kids
to know that they're going to get the family life estate <i>pur autre vie</i>. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Basically: former partner's daughter quitclaims a life estate in the family home to herself with my client's kids as the remaindermen and the measuring life being the former partner.
I haven't run across a life estate <i>pur autre vie</i> in my practice, only really remembering them from law school. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Has anyone done anything like this in Washington State? As far as I can tell, the
<i>pur autre vie</i> is valid in Washington State, but considering this would be my first blush with this form of title, I want to hear from practitioners who may have personal experience.<o:p></o:p></p>
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