<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Mary:<br><br></div>thank you. this is not an area that I practice in so this has been very helpful.<br><br></div>Jim Doran<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>James R. Doran<br></div>Attorney at Law<br></div>100 E. Pine Street - Suite 205<br></div>Bellingham, WA 98225<br>(360)393-9506<br></div><a href="mailto:jim@doranlegal.com" target="_blank">jim@doranlegal.com</a><br></div><a href="http://www.doranlegal.com" target="_blank">www.doranlegal.com</a><br></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 12:00 PM, MK Henderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:law.mkh@gmail.com" target="_blank">law.mkh@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Jim, SSI is supplemental security income based on a persons income and assets. So if a PI award is over $2,000 then you possibly need to create a special needs trust. I don't believe a PI award is considered income as to Social Security Disability(SSDI). There are now ABLE accounts for SSI recipients that you may want to look into. <br><br>On Wednesday, August 9, 2017, Jim Doran <<a href="mailto:jim@doranlegal.com" target="_blank">jim@doranlegal.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>So a personal injury award CAN affect social security disability income. Yes, a special needs trust could be set up for the recipient to avoid that problem.<br><br></div>But how do I know if the award will violate the social security income source?<br><br></div>Jim Doran<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>James R. Doran<br></div>Attorney at Law<br></div>100 E. Pine Street - Suite 205<br></div>Bellingham, WA 98225<br><a href="tel:(360)%20393-9506" value="+13603939506" target="_blank">(360)393-9506</a><br></div><a>jim@doranlegal.com</a><br></div><a href="http://www.doranlegal.com" target="_blank">www.doranlegal.com</a><br></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 2:02 PM, NC <span dir="ltr"><<a>seaseanc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Sometimes a trust is set up to handle these awards and not affect eligibility. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Jim Doran <span dir="ltr"><<a>jim@doranlegal.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks for the reply.<br><br></div>Jim Doran<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>James R. Doran<br></div>Attorney at Law<br></div>100 E. Pine Street - Suite 205<br></div>Bellingham, WA 98225<br><a href="tel:(360)%20393-9506" value="+13603939506" target="_blank">(360)393-9506</a><br></div><a>jim@doranlegal.com</a><br></div><a href="http://www.doranlegal.com" target="_blank">www.doranlegal.com</a><br></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Roger Hawkes <span dir="ltr"><<a>Roger@law-hawks.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">An insurance award for personal injury is not "income" for IRS purposes. The question is whether the personal injury award can have any negative impact with the SSA for the recipient of that award who is receiving
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Any clarity from any one? I do not want to spend 2 hours on the phone trying to get an answer out of some one at the SSA office.<u></u><u></u></p>
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