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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Any attorney fees that would be charged for representing the buyer would need to be paid by the buyer, not the seller as part of the Selling Office Commission. And if there is no agent on the other side the listing office is entitled to the Selling Office Commission.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>So if the buyer pays additional funds into escrow to pay their attorney I suspect the escrow could pay that to the attorney, but I don’t think that deals with the issue. And there would be nothing that would keep the buyer from paying their attorney directly, so no reason to pay them through escrow.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On the lender complaining issue we’ve dealt with rebates by having the seller agree to pay buyer closing costs in Form 22A and then in Form 22D offering to reduce the SOC. That basically accomplishes the same thing (but it does require the listing agent to go along since as noted they would be entitled to the SOC if not otherwise paid).</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Kary L. Krismer</p><p class=MsoNormal>John L. Scott/KMS Renton<br>206 723-2148</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:BryceD@cdb-law.com">Bryce Dille</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, June 19, 2017 3:10 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">WSBA Real Property Listserv</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [WSBARP] lawyers receiving commissions</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>If the atty involved charged a fee for services and not a commission for putting a deal together it could be paid at closing and not run afoul of the statute.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Randall Cornwall<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 19, 2017 2:53 PM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] lawyers receiving commissions<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Please respond to the list.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>On a semi-related note - I recently had a Managing Broker tell me that his real estate firm could not refund a buyer the fully agreed upon commission rebate out of the SOC because the buyer's lender said they would not allow the full amount of the rebate to be paid in closing. He also cited this statute saying the firm could not pay the buyer the remainder of the commission rebate outside of closing because the buyer was not a licensed broker.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Thoughts? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>___________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black;text-transform:uppercase'>Randall J. COrnwall</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black;text-transform:uppercase'>DEMCO LAW FIRM, P.S.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black;text-transform:uppercase'>(206) 203-6000</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Roger Hawkes <<a href="mailto:Roger@law-hawks.com" target="_blank">Roger@law-hawks.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>To your knowledge are there any judicial rulings or WACS establishing a lawyer’s right to get a selling broker’s commission without a real estate broker’s license? A managing broker is quoting this statute as the reason why escrow can’t pay a ‘procuring cause’ lawyer the ‘selling broker’s’ commission as listed on the purchase and sale agreement.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:3.75pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>RCW 18.85.301</span></b><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:3.75pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Sharing commissions.</span></b><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-indent:.25in;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>(1) Except under subsection (4) of this section, it is unlawful for any licensed firm, broker, or managing broker to pay any part of the licensee's commission or other compensation to any person who performs real estate brokerage services and who is not a licensed firm, real estate broker, or managing broker in any state of the United States or its possessions or any foreign jurisdiction with a real estate regulatory program.</span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-indent:.25in;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>(2) Except under subsection (4) of this section, it is unlawful for any licensed real estate firm to pay any part of the firm's commission from brokerage services or other compensation to a real estate broker or managing broker not licensed to do business for the firm.</span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-indent:.25in;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>(3) Except under subsection (4) of this section, it is unlawful for licensed brokers or managing brokers to pay any part of their commission from brokerage services or other compensation to any person, whether licensed or not, except through the firm's designated broker.</span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-indent:.25in;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>(4) A commission may be shared with a manufactured housing retailer, licensed under chapter <a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.70" target="_blank"><b><span style='color:#7DAB8A'>46.70</span></b></a> RCW, on the sale of personal property manufactured housing sold in conjunction with the sale or lease of land.</span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Roger Hawkes, WSBA 5173<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>19909 Ballinger Way NE<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Times New 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