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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> Two issues can come up on a tax sale. A party with an interest in the action may not have been properly served. While there is publication, the diligence
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> In limited circumstances, I have been able to accomplish sales of such properties on contract with payments being held by the title company, and with the
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From: Richard Holland <<a href="mailto:rich@pnwle.com">rich@pnwle.com</a>><br>
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Ok, I use to know this but those brain cells have apparently left the building.<br>
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What is the additional step beyond recording that needs to be done to get something 'registered'? For example, I have a title where it says an Assignment of the Deed of Trust was "recorded but not registered".<br>
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Richard -<br>
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I am curious why an HOA/COA, absent mirroring a statutory requirement,<br>
would have this in their CCRs/declaration? You've seen this before absent<br>
such a statute?<br>
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Seems a resource that the association is giving up for nothing. In<br>
practice, at least in my experience, while the obligation to do so can be<br>
murky banks will often square the past dues upon the eventual sale to<br>
ensure title/avoid the hassle. (Getting them to pay along the way is a<br>
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> While admittedly I have personally seen this come up more in Oregon<br>
> (because of how the statute is worded), I have had it come up in Washington<br>
> and am just passing this along for those HOA advisors. For sake of<br>
> brevity, here is the Oregon Statue that, in various forms of language,<br>
> appears in many CC&Rs:<br>
><br>
> Oregon Statute 94.723 Common expenses; liability of first mortgagee, once<br>
> a lot in a planned community is foreclosed upon the mortgagee and<br>
> subsequent purchaser shall not be liable for any of the common expenses<br>
> chargeable to the lot which became due before the mortgagee or purchaser<br>
> acquired title to the lot. The unpaid expenses shall become a common<br>
> expense of all lot owners including the mortgagee or purchaser.<br>
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> The problem is when is "Title" acquired after a judicial foreclosure? One<br>
> argument is that it is the date of sale but that isn't accurate because you<br>
> do not get a Deed (which is the instrument that conveys TITLE) until after<br>
> the redemption period. The other obvious one is that it is the date of the<br>
> deed - though I have also heard the date of recording of the deed argued.<br>
> If you represent the lender, you want it to be the date the lender actually<br>
> got title. If you represent the HOA, the obvious issue is that the debtor<br>
> is no longer responsible for payment after the date of sale - they have<br>
> been foreclosed out - so who is responsible for paying the dues during the<br>
> redemption period? (And remember, if the US Gov't is on the title that can<br>
> be 18 months in some situations).<br>
><br>
> When I have had the opportunity to advise HOAs, I suggest that they either<br>
> specify this as "the date of sale" or as "the date the mortgagee obtained<br>
> the right of possession" or I suppose you could say "the date the purchaser<br>
> acquired title or the right to possession, whichever is earlier" but being<br>
> a verbose sort why not go all out and say "The purchaser shall not be<br>
> liable for any of the common expenses chargeable to the lot which became<br>
> due before the earlier of: 1) The date of sale; 2) the date the purchaser<br>
> acquired title; or 3) the date the purchaser obtained the right to<br>
> possession". And yes, a right of possession in the general sense could<br>
> be in a rental agreement but not in the context of where the provision is<br>
> in the CC&Rs. Anyway, it's a random thing to post but it came up for me<br>
> again today so it was fresh on my mind and I thought I would pass it along.<br>
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Perhaps this is a reference to Torrens system RCW 65.12-I have only seen one case in years of practice. You would register the deed of trust rather than recording it. The land would have to be registered under the system for this to work.<br>
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Ok, I use to know this but those brain cells have apparently left the building.<br>
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What is the additional step beyond recording that needs to be done to get something 'registered'? For example, I have a title where it says an Assignment of the Deed of Trust was "recorded but not registered".<br>
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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 20:02:24 +0000<br>
From: Richard Holland <<a href="mailto:rich@pnwle.com">rich@pnwle.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Judicial foreclosures and HOA<br>
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Carmen,<br>
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Most lenders will not lend on a property where the HOA could effectively wipe them out by foreclosing. So most CC&Rs have subordination language and similarly, many have this same language about what happens post foreclosure ? again, because lenders want it.
Not all to be sure.<br>
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So whereas COAs are somewhat ?tied? to what they can claim by the Condo Act (the 6 month/3 month w- notice) bit, HOAs are not. If they do not have this language, then the only limit of ?how far back? they can claim is really the statute of limitations. I see
those as well. The ?best? ones (from an HOA perspective) that I have seen have the waiver language like set out below which pleases a lender loaning on the property, but they also have this ?kicker? that says ?all of that is true IF the lender provides a copy
of the DOT to the HOA within 60 or 90 days of recording?. Of course years later the lender who now has the loan has almost no shot of producing ?proof? that the original DOT was provided to the HOA in accordance with the CC&Rs notice provision unless the original
lender was meticulous and that is pretty rare and if it was a MERS Loan, forget it.<br>
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Richard -<br>
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I am curious why an HOA/COA, absent mirroring a statutory requirement, would have this in their CCRs/declaration? You've seen this before absent such a statute?<br>
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Seems a resource that the association is giving up for nothing. In practice, at least in my experience, while the obligation to do so can be murky banks will often square the past dues upon the eventual sale to ensure title/avoid the hassle. (Getting them to
pay along the way is a whole other story; but at least there is often eventual payment)<br>
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Just curious what's out there.<br>
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Your advice for when an advisor is involved in drafting such language is very helpful.<br>
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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 18:02:08 +0000<br>
From: Richard Holland <<a href="mailto:rich@pnwle.com">rich@pnwle.com</a><<a href="mailto:rich@pnwle.com?">mailto:rich@pnwle.com</a>>><br>
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While admittedly I have personally seen this come up more in Oregon (because of how the statute is worded), I have had it come up in Washington and am just passing this along for those HOA advisors. For sake of brevity, here is the Oregon Statue that, in various
forms of language, appears in many CC&Rs:<br>
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Oregon Statute 94.723 Common expenses; liability of first mortgagee, once a lot in a planned community is foreclosed upon the mortgagee and subsequent purchaser shall not be liable for any of the common expenses chargeable to the lot which became due before
the mortgagee or purchaser acquired title to the lot. The unpaid expenses shall become a common expense of all lot owners including the mortgagee or purchaser.<br>
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The problem is when is "Title" acquired after a judicial foreclosure? One argument is that it is the date of sale but that isn't accurate because you do not get a Deed (which is the instrument that conveys TITLE) until after the redemption period. The other
obvious one is that it is the date of the deed - though I have also heard the date of recording of the deed argued. If you represent the lender, you want it to be the date the lender actually got title. If you represent the HOA, the obvious issue is that the
debtor is no longer responsible for payment after the date of sale - they have been foreclosed out - so who is responsible for paying the dues during the redemption period? (And remember, if the US Gov't is on the title that can be 18 months in some situations).<br>
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When I have had the opportunity to advise HOAs, I suggest that they either specify this as "the date of sale" or as "the date the mortgagee obtained the right of possession" or I suppose you could say "the date the purchaser acquired title or the right to possession,
whichever is earlier" but being a verbose sort why not go all out and say "The purchaser shall not be liable for any of the common expenses chargeable to the lot which became due before the earlier of: 1) The date of sale; 2) the date the purchaser acquired
title; or 3) the date the purchaser obtained the right to possession". And yes, a right of possession in the general sense could be in a rental agreement but not in the context of where the provision is in the CC&Rs. Anyway, it's a random thing to post but
it came up for me again today so it was fresh on my mind and I thought I would pass it along.<br>
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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 20:05:32 +0000<br>
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It is and I got some terrific direction on what to do and it's not terribly difficult, but it happens so rarely. I think I've run across about six to ten in the last twenty years so it's not usual to be certain and I always recommend we get the property the
heck out of the Torrens ASAP. I am somewhat surprised King County doesn't require the land to be taken out of the system on transfer just so that ultimately they'd be done with it.<br>
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Perhaps this is a reference to Torrens system RCW 65.12-I have only seen one case in years of practice. You would register the deed of trust rather than recording it. The land would have to be registered under the system for this to work.<br>
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Ok, I use to know this but those brain cells have apparently left the building.<br>
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What is the additional step beyond recording that needs to be done to get something 'registered'? For example, I have a title where it says an Assignment of the Deed of Trust was "recorded but not registered".<br>
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It is and I got some terrific direction on what to do and it's not<br>
terribly difficult, but it happens so rarely. I think I've run across<br>
about six to ten in the last twenty years so it's not usual to be<br>
certain and I always recommend we get the property the heck out of the<br>
Torrens ASAP. I am somewhat surprised King County doesn't require the<br>
land to be taken out of the system on transfer just so that ultimately<br>
they'd be done with it.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
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<br>
<br>
Rich Holland<br>
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Perhaps this is a reference to Torrens system RCW 65.12-I have only seen<br>
one case in years of practice. You would register the deed of trust<br>
rather than recording it. The land would have to be registered under the<br>
system for this to work. <br>
<br>
<br>
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Ok, I use to know this but those brain cells have apparently left the<br>
building.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
What is the additional step beyond recording that needs to be done to<br>
get something 'registered'? For example, I have a title where it says<br>
an Assignment of the Deed of Trust was "recorded but not registered".<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Sincerely,<br>
<br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 22:08:07 +0000<br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 22:33:05 +0000<br>
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I did the petition for removal from land registration for a probate a couple years ago. Let me know if you need the forms and I'll email them directly to you.<br>
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Ok, I use to know this but those brain cells have apparently left the building.<br>
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What is the additional step beyond recording that needs to be done to get something 'registered'? For example, I have a title where it says an Assignment of the Deed of Trust was "recorded but not registered".<br>
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Message: 9<br>
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 22:33:33 +0000<br>
From: Robert Ordal <<a href="mailto:ordal@ordallaw.com">ordal@ordallaw.com</a>><br>
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I have not had a registered land case in maybe 20 years, but I expect you still have to "register" a document to affect title to registered land. It's a separate system from the recording system. Recording does nothing. There used to be a guy named John Raymond
who ran the office in the King Co Admin Building. You would take your docs down to him and he would "register" them in the registration books. It's also called the Torrens system; I think it started in Adelaide, Australia and was patterned after registering
ship mortgages.<br>
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See: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torrens_title" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torrens_title</a><br>
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Ok, I use to know this but those brain cells have apparently left the building.<br>
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What is the additional step beyond recording that needs to be done to get something 'registered'? For example, I have a title where it says an Assignment of the Deed of Trust was "recorded but not registered".<br>
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Message: 10<br>
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 22:41:57 +0000<br>
From: Paul Neumiller <<a href="mailto:pneumiller@hotmail.com">pneumiller@hotmail.com</a>><br>
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Am I reading this correct? RCW 64.38.065 seems to require that an homeowners association (not a condo) must, at least, prepare a Reserve Study and an association is ?encouraged? to establish a reserve account (presumably pursuant to the Reserve Study) but then
RCW 64.38.085 says ?Monetary damages or any other liability may not be awarded against or imposed upon the association, the officers or board of directors of the association, or those persons who may have provided advice or assistance to the association or
its officers or directors, for failure to: Establish a reserve account; have a current reserve study prepared or updated in accordance with the requirements of this chapter; or make the reserve disclosures in accordance with this chapter.?<br>
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Soooooo, RCW 64.38.065 says you must perform a Reserve Study but RCW 64.38.085 says hey, don?t worry about it because you aren?t liable if you don?t prepare a Reserve Study???<br>
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(Now I know that an association should prepare a Reserve Study and should have a reserve fund but that?s not my question)<br>
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Message: 11<br>
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 15:42:42 -0700<br>
From: Jan Kelly <<a href="mailto:jan@jankellylaw.com">jan@jankellylaw.com</a>><br>
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I am looking for recommendations for residential real estate appraisers who<br>
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Message: 12<br>
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 23:49:52 +0000<br>
From: "John M. Riley III" <<a href="mailto:JMR@witherspoonkelley.com">JMR@witherspoonkelley.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] HOAs and Reserve Studies - Reality Check<br>
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As we all know, there are many many sets of covenants requiring associations all over Washington. The operation of those associations varies, and the conduct of the members and directors/officers varies. Many are still probably unaware of the reserve legislation
you speak of. I believe the immunity provisions are a recognition of these facts.<br>
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Am I reading this correct? RCW 64.38.065 seems to require that an homeowners association (not a condo) must, at least, prepare a Reserve Study and an association is "encouraged' to establish a reserve account (presumably pursuant to the Reserve Study) but then
RCW 64.38.085 says "Monetary damages or any other liability may not be awarded against or imposed upon the association, the officers or board of directors of the association, or those persons who may have provided advice or assistance to the association or
its officers or directors, for failure to: Establish a reserve account; have a current reserve study prepared or updated in accordance with the requirements of this chapter; or make the reserve disclosures in accordance with this chapter."<br>
<br>
Soooooo, RCW 64.38.065 says you must perform a Reserve Study but RCW 64.38.085 says hey, don't worry about it because you aren't liable if you don't prepare a Reserve Study???<br>
<br>
(Now I know that an association should prepare a Reserve Study and should have a reserve fund but that's not my question)<br>
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Message: 13<br>
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 01:10:12 +0000<br>
From: "Elizabeth [Lisa] M. Carney" <<a href="mailto:carney@westseattlelaw.com">carney@westseattlelaw.com</a>><br>
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
Subject: [WSBARP] seeking referral for debtor receiving inheritance<br>
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Colleagues:<br>
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PC is paying off IRS debt [via an agreed plan] and is anticipating an inheritance.<br>
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PC is seeking guidance regarding debtor rights as related to the inheritance, and impact of the inheritance on is payment plan to the IRS.<br>
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He was referred to us by his accountant.<br>
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Thank you.<br>
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Message: 14<br>
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 17:28:36 +0000<br>
From: Marcus Fry <<a href="mailto:mfry@lyon-law.com">mfry@lyon-law.com</a>><br>
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Subject: [WSBARP] 3 year wait period after tax foreclosure<br>
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Client purchased property a county tax foreclosure sale. Client now selling to a developer who plans to build and then resell. Title ins. Co. states that they will not insure due to 3-year rule under RCW 4.16.090. There was thread on this issue earlier this
year and I have that thread. However, title company is willing to insure under 2 options: (1) Obtaining a certification from a tax title service company (that charges a pretty sizeable fee and will be in excess what I would charge for a quiet title action);
or (2) Quiet title.<br>
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I am having a hard time wrapping my head around a quiet title action in this instance.<br>
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Is it a declaratory action that requests that the court declare that the county acted in accordance with law? To me it appears that I am effectively cutting off a 3-year SOL, which seems highly questionable. Am I correct?<br>
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Additionally, the other parties of record was a defunct corporation and a private lien holder. If you have experience in this, I would like to know do I need publish my Summons for all interested parties in the property to satisfy the title company? All I am
getting back from underwriting at the title insurance co. is do a quiet title action as if all quiet title actions are the same.<br>
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Thank you,<br>
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Marcus J. Fry<br>
Lyon, Weigand & Gustafson, P.S.<br>
P.O. Box 1689<br>
Yakima, Washington 98907<br>
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Message: 15<br>
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 17:46:46 +0000<br>
From: Jay Goldstein <<a href="mailto:jay@jaglaw.net">jay@jaglaw.net</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] 3 year wait period after tax foreclosure<br>
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I think the purpose of the QT action is to extinguish redemption rights that may arise under
<a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=84.64.070" target="_blank">http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=84.64.070</a><br>
Subsection (5).<br>
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Subject: [WSBARP] 3 year wait period after tax foreclosure<br>
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Client purchased property a county tax foreclosure sale. Client now selling to a developer who plans to build and then resell. Title ins. Co. states that they will not insure due to 3-year rule under RCW 4.16.090. There was thread on this issue earlier this
year and I have that thread. However, title company is willing to insure under 2 options: (1) Obtaining a certification from a tax title service company (that charges a pretty sizeable fee and will be in excess what I would charge for a quiet title action);
or (2) Quiet title.<br>
<br>
I am having a hard time wrapping my head around a quiet title action in this instance.<br>
<br>
Is it a declaratory action that requests that the court declare that the county acted in accordance with law? To me it appears that I am effectively cutting off a 3-year SOL, which seems highly questionable. Am I correct?<br>
<br>
Additionally, the other parties of record was a defunct corporation and a private lien holder. If you have experience in this, I would like to know do I need publish my Summons for all interested parties in the property to satisfy the title company? All I am
getting back from underwriting at the title insurance co. is do a quiet title action as if all quiet title actions are the same.<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
<br>
Marcus J. Fry<br>
Lyon, Weigand & Gustafson, P.S.<br>
P.O. Box 1689<br>
Yakima, Washington 98907<br>
Telephone: (509) 248-7220<br>
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