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<p>Thanks again. Pennington was certainly helpful. It is looking
like the CIR likely covers their time together and the focus will
need to be on the wrongful death litigation.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Anthony<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
do not see the survivor in a CIR as a creditor, but really
as a surviving spouse. The idea is characterization as the
community property presumption would apply to this couple.
In other words, all earnings and acquisitions acquired
during their time of cohabitation would be considered owned
by the two of them as quasi community property. The
decedent’s earnings, and the property purchased with those
earnings would be community. Wrongful death actions are
somewhat more complex, and the surviving spouse may or may
not have any rights to the wrongful death litigation. The
statute may be more strictly construed and require a more
formalized (marriage) relationship. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Thank
you, Kerry. I appreciate the response very much and will
read those cases.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I was
thinking along those lines. Wouldn't the CIR yield the
"surviving spouse" as being a
<u>creditor</u> of the estate? The deceased does have a
pending PI claim (asbestos exposure) consisting of
wrongful death claim (subject to court division, as I
understand it) while the survival action is decedent's
separate property.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks again!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Kerry
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
urge that you review the case law establishing
Committed Intimate Relationships. (CIR). The lead
case is <b>Nash</b> and <b>Pennington.</b> There
the court listed multiple nonexclusive factors in
establishing the CIR. The facts of your situation
may find that much of what was accumulated by this
couple over their 20 year life together as quasi
community in character and therefore owned by the
surviving spouse and not his biological children.
Again, there are issues of tracing and
characterization which must be accomplished before
any such conclusions are appropriate, however.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>As relates to intestacy, if a man and a woman who
have lived together for 10 years file an
<i>application</i> for a marriage license in King
County, but never file the <i>certificate</i> of
marriage, would the woman be entitled to treatment
as a surviving spouse?
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>The man and woman did ultimately live together
for approximately 20 years before he died although
they signed documents as single or married as was
convenient under the circumstances (i.e.,
sometimes they filled out documents saying they
were single, other times, they represented they
were married). She's now trying to prevent the
man's biological children from getting anything
from his estate.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Anthony<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>Anthony F. Gibbs<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Gibbs Law Offices<o:p></o:p></pre>
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