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<DIV>See Blue Diamond Group Inc. v KB Seattle 1 Inc. 163 WA App 449 (2011)
which denied a lien to a construction management professional, because it
wasn’t “labor” provided to real property.</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=BryceD@cdb-law.com
href="mailto:BryceD@cdb-law.com">Bryce Dille</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September 26, 2015 10:28 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com
href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">WSBA Real Property Listserv</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WSBARP] "Designer" non-architect -lien rights? right
to advertise as "architect"?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Does
this mean that a construction manager or consultant who performs no work on the
property and does not have to be a registered contractor has no lien rights
since these services are not defined as professional services under the
statute?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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H. Dille <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Campbell,
Dille, Barnett & Smith, PLLC<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>P.O.
Box 488<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Puyallup,
WA 98371<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Voice:
253.848.3513<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Fax:
253.845.4941<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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Entity Creation and Management</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Business,
Government and Tax Law<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Real
Estate and Land Use, Residential, Commercial and Condominium
Development<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Real
Estate and Commercial Transactions & Closings, Including Performing Services
as IRS Section 1031 Exchange Facilitator<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Estate
Planning, including Wills and Trusts, and Probate
Administration<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Representation
Homeowners/Condominium Association Real Estate
Developments<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Real
Property Foreclosures and Forfeitures<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Jay Goldstein<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September 26, 2015
10:04 AM<BR><B>To:</B> WSBA Real Property Listserv<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[WSBARP] "Designer" non-architect - lien rights? right to advertise as
"architect"?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<H2 style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN-TOP: 0in; mso-line-height-alt: 12.0pt">Look
at 60.04.011<SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></H2>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: #252525'>(5)
“Improvement” means: (a) Constructing, altering, repairing, remodeling,
demolishing, clearing, grading, or filling in, of, to, or upon any real property
or street or road in front of or adjoining the same; (b) planting of trees,
vines, shrubs, plants, hedges, or lawns, or providing other landscaping
materials on any real property; and (c<SPAN
style="BACKGROUND: yellow; mso-highlight: yellow">) providing professional
services upon real property or in preparation for or in conjunction with the
intended activities in (a) or (b) of this
subsection.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: #252525'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: #252525'>(11)
“Potential lien claimant” means any person or entity entitled to assert lien
rights under this chapter who has otherwise complied with the provisions of this
chapter and is registered or licensed if required to be licensed or registered
by the provisions of the laws of the state of Washington<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: #252525'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: #252525'>(13)
“Professional services” means surveying, establishing or marking the boundaries
of, preparing maps, plans, or specifications for, or inspecting, testing, or
otherwise performing any other architectural or engineering services for the
improvement of real property.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Freehand521 BT"; COLOR: #17365d'>Jay A.
Goldstein<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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Cooper Point RD SW NO. 8</SPAN><SPAN
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Olympia, WA 98502</SPAN><SPAN
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Eric Nelsen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 25, 2015 11:15
AM<BR><B>To:</B> WSBA Real Property Listserv <<A
href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</A>><BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [WSBARP] "Designer" non-architect - lien rights? right to advertise as
"architect"?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Thanks
everybody! And thanks Jay for the cite to the lien
law--helpful.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>A
couple wrinkles:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>1.
Advertising as "architect" - interestingly, it appears that "architect" is one
of the search key words embedded in his site so that you are directed there via
a search engine, but his website doesn't actually say "architect" visibly
anywhere. In fact the website appears to rather carefully NOT say architect, or
even mention anything about his qualifications. This still sound like a
violation?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>2.
Lien - my understanding is that a "building designer" is unlicensed and
unregulated in Washington, but nevertheless allowed to design stuff that I'd
consider architecture--like expansions and renovations of existing homes. Given
that a license isn't required, can the designer gain lien rights as he's
theoretically providing "professional services" related to improvement of real
property?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Eric C.
Nelsen<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>SAYRE LAW OFFICES,
PLLC<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>1320 University
St<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Seattle WA
98101-2837<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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206-625-0092<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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206-625-9040<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
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href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</A>
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Jay Goldstein<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 25, 2015
9:06 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'WSBA Real Property Listserv'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[WSBARP] "Designer" non-architect - lien rights? right to advertise as
"architect"?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Bad guy needs
to get a letter from AIA state chapter alerting bad guy that he is violating the
law, needs to stop false advertising, etc, and cc DOL.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #1f497d">I’ve had to
write many of these letters to unlicensed practitioners for a state organization
of licensed professionals, and the bad guys generally stop the unlawful practice
pretty quickly.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Freehand521 BT"; COLOR: #17365d'>Jay A.
Goldstein<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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Cooper Point RD SW NO. 8</SPAN><SPAN
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
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href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</A>
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Mark K. Funke<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 24, 2015
3:58 PM<BR><B>To:</B> WSBA Real Property Listserv <<A
href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</A>><BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [WSBARP] "Designer" non-architect - lien rights? right to advertise as
"architect"?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Eric -<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>As for the licensing issue, it’s a gross misdemeanor and
subjects him to civil penalties.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Just ask a licensed architect how they feel about “designers”
calling themselves architects… I have found enforcement by the state lax in WA
but brutal and swift in CA.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P></DIV>
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<H3
style="BOX-SIZING: border-box; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 7.5pt; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 3.75pt"><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"'>18.08.460<BR>Violation of chapter
— Penalties — Enforcement — Injunctions — Persons who may initiate
proceedings.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></H3>
<P
style="BOX-SIZING: border-box; BACKGROUND: white; Z-INDEX: auto; LINE-HEIGHT: 15pt"><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"'>(1) Any person who violates any
provision of this chapter or any rule promulgated under it is guilty of a
misdemeanor and may also be subject to a civil penalty in an amount not to
exceed one thousand dollars for each offense.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="BOX-SIZING: border-box; BACKGROUND: white; Z-INDEX: auto; LINE-HEIGHT: 15pt"><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>and<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<H3
style="BOX-SIZING: border-box; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 7.5pt; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 3.75pt"><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"'>18.08.310<BR>Authorization to
practice required — Out-of-state firms — Interns.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></H3>
<P
style="BOX-SIZING: border-box; BACKGROUND: white; Z-INDEX: auto; LINE-HEIGHT: 15pt"><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"'>(1) It is unlawful for any person
to practice or offer to practice architecture in this state, or to use in
connection with his or her name or otherwise assume, use, or advertise any title
or description including the word "architect," "architecture," "architectural,"
or language tending to imply that he or she is an architect, unless the person
is registered or authorized to practice in the state of Washington under this
chapter.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>- Mark<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">__<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">FUNKE
PS<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Mark K. Funke,
Attorney<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">1411 East Olive
Way<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Seattle, Washington
98122<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black">P.206-632-1535<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black">F.206-374-2283<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><A
href="mailto:mark@funkelaw.com">mark@funkelaw.com</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Sep 24, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Eric Nelsen <<A
href="mailto:Eric@SAYRELAWOFFICES.COM">Eric@SAYRELAWOFFICES.COM</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt">
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>Potential client
hired someone whose website says "architect" and he calls himself that too.
But he's not a licensed architect and the fine print in the contract says he's
a design firm, not an architect or engineer.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>Assuming for the
moment this guy is at least reasonably qualified to do the job but just
doesn't have the state license for an architect--<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>1. Can he lien
the project?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>2. Is it
misrepresentation or misleading to advertise as an architect in Washington,
when not licensed as one?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thanks
all!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>Sincerely,</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'> </SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>Eric C.
Nelsen</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>SAYRE LAW
OFFICES, PLLC</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>1320
University St</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>Seattle
WA 98101-2837</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>phone
206-625-0092</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>fax
206-625-9040</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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