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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Marcus, thanks for the input. I used the same method you use (didn’t file yet either) but still got caught up when the sheriff didn’t serve in time (to the sheriff’s defense, they tried three times before the drop dead date. But the sheriff also helped the guy before the drop dead date when the guy ran out of gas on the side of the road but the sheriff didn’t have the paperwork in the sheriff’s cruiser at the time). The RCW for a regular summons states that the defendant must answer within 20 days of service. As you have noted, the summons for a UD complaint must “state the names of the parties to the proceeding, the court in which the same is brought, the nature of the action, in concise terms, and the relief sought, and also the <span style='background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>return day</span>;”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I was trying to creatively get around the specific “return day” issue. I also decline to be the test case.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Paul Neumiller <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Marcus Fry<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 16, 2015 4:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'WSBA Real Property Listserv' <wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] UD Gurus<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_GoBack"></a><span style='color:#1F497D'>Paul:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The problem is that the statutory summons does not really set it out that way. It has a section for a specified time and date to return the summons (see link). However, the statute does say “substantially” but I rarely want to be a test case for something that 99% of UD attorneys do, which is to specify a date. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=59.18.365">http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=59.18.365</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>When giving instructions to a process server, I always give them a drop dead date to serve by and I calculate off the last day to serve for inputting the date into the summons. For example, if I give the dx to the process server today and tell him to serve by 9/20, I count 7 days from the 20<sup>th</sup>. Now as a practice tip, I often don’t file the summons and complaint if I think we may have trouble serving. 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If you have received this transmission in error, please contact us immediately and return the e-mail to us by choosing Reply (or the corresponding function on your e-mail system) and then deleting the e-mail.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Neumiller<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 16, 2015 4:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [WSBARP] UD Gurus<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Does your Summons for an unlawful detainer set a date specific for a return date or can I just say that the return date is seven days from the date of service. A problem arose because I put a specific date on my summons but the local sheriff didn’t serve in time and there is less than 7 days left so I have to prepare a new summons for the sheriff to deliver (AND to add insult to injury, the sheriff wants to charge a new and additional service fee.) So, I’m thinking to get around this problem, I just put that the return date is 7 days from the date of service, and then I find out the date of service and go in and get a default 7+ days later. Does this work????<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>