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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Yes. There are cases out there that say AP and PE are overlapping. And, of course, lack of exclusivity does not necessarily defeat an AP claim.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John M. Riley III<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 29, 2015 3:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Long-Term Adverse Possession<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Is Gamboa applicable to adverse possession? Different elements but permission is a defense to hostility. As well, possession in adverse possession cases is usually exclusive, while prescriptive easements usually
involve access which is usually shared. These suggest a different analysis. <o:p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jane Seymour<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 29, 2015 2:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'WSBA Real Property Listserv'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Long-Term Adverse Possession<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Gamboa v Clark WA Supreme Court (April 16 2015) and the related Court of Appeals case, Gamboa v Clark 180WnApp256 321P3d1236 (WashAppDiv3 2014), for a prescriptive
easement case that discusses the shifting burden in great detail.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Neumiller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 29, 2015 1:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'WSBA Real Property Listserv'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Long-Term Adverse Possession<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Tom, thanks for the materials but they do not address the issue of a shift in burden of proof. Then again, maybe by NOT addressing the issue, there is no such doctrine that applies to adverse possession (or,
my “vague recollection” may be too vague).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom J. Westbrook<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Long-Term Adverse Possession<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#44546A">Paul, you should find that answer somewhere in here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#44546A">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Neumiller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBARP] Long-Term Adverse Possession<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The standard/usual burden of proof falls on the party who is claiming real property through adverse possession. It is my vague recollection that there is a doctrine that says that if the use of the real property is long-term, the burden
falls on the party resisting the adverse possession to prove that there is no adverse possession. That is, long-term adverse possession shifts the burden of proof from the “claiming” party to the “resisting” party. I can’t find that doctrine now. Anyone
able to point me in the right direction?<o:p></o:p></p>
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