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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ron--Found it! Two separate doctrines, "projection" of a property line, and "penumbra" to give a little ground around the edges of an encroaching building,
walkways, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">See
<u>Lloyd v. Montecucco</u>, 83 WnApp 846 (1996), citing Stoebuck, 17 Wash.Prac. Real Estate: Property Law Sec. 8.9 (2004).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Eric<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Eric C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Nelsen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 29, 2015 11:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Adverse Posssession - Property Line Adjustment<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">City doesn't care about shape so long as square footage remains within zoning limits. You can carve out a chunk, no problem. The issue will be history of use,
and if the use doesn't extend along the entire line, then adverse possession shouldn't move the entire line.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">That said, there is a case out there that if I remember aright, approved of movement of a boundary line in a uniform manner. But I think it was a shoreline
property or some other scenario where the boundary wasn't too clear in the other area, and the nature of the possession sort of made the whole boundary look like it had moved. I can't remember the exact situation, and it might have been a common-grantor or
mutual-recognition-and-acquiescence case, rather than straight adverse possession. (This is going to nag at me; if I can find the cite later I'll post it.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Eric<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Eric C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">SAYRE LAW OFFICES, PLLC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Seattle WA 98101-2837<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Housh<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 29, 2015 9:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'WSBA Real Property Listserv'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Adverse Posssession - Property Line Adjustment<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Back to my adverse possession case…..a property line question.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Is there any requirement in the City of Seattle that property lines must be a straight line? Seems that every survey I’ve dealt with in Seattle, the lines
are always straight.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">So what if an adverse possessor prevails on a claim of use of an area say 8 feet wide and 20 feet long in the middle of the property line? Is there anything
to prevent the Court from ordering that the boundary be adjusted to award the claimant just this “chunk” of land ?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Stated otherwise, it would seem unfair to move the entire line 8 feet simply because the claimant has used a 20 foot section.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks for input from folks with survey/land use experience!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ronald G. Housh, P.S.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Phone: 206-381-1341<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Email:
<a href="mailto:ron@housh.org"><span style="color:#1F497D">ron@housh.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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