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“it depends on the evidence” keeps us pretty busy!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Roger Hawkes, WSBA # 5173<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">19909 Ballinger Way NE<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Ron Housh [mailto:ron@housh.org]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 17, 2015 10:09 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'WSBA Real Property Listserv'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Prescriptive Easement - Circumstantial Evidence<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks Roger<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I had not yet read the published Supreme Court decision in Gamboa but had been reading briefs filed in the case. It certainly gives my client – the Estate
owner of the vacant lot – some hope that the Court will infer neighborly acquiescence giving rise to the presumption of permissive use and then the “crapshoot” is whether the neighbor can overcome the presumption.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red">I AM TYPICALLY IN THE SEATTLE OFFICE ON TUESDAY AND THURSDAY AND IN THE MOUNT VERNON OFFICE ON MONDAY, WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ronald G. Housh, P.S.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">1420 Fifth Avenue, Suite 3000<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Seattle, WA 98101-2393<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Mount Vernon Office:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">21411 Bluejay Place<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Phone: 206-235-2459<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Roger Hawkes<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 16, 2015 6:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Prescriptive Easement - Circumstantial Evidence<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Did you see Gamboa, published today?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Roger Hawkes, WSBA # 5173<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">19909 Ballinger Way NE<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Shoreline, WA 98155<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.hawkeslawfirm.com"><span style="color:blue">www.hawkeslawfirm.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">206 367 5000<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Ron Housh [<a href="mailto:ron@housh.org">mailto:ron@housh.org</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 16, 2015 5:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'WSBA Real Property Listserv'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Prescriptive Easement - Circumstantial Evidence<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Since we are on the topic of prescriptive easements, anyone ever successful in establishing permissive use based solely on circumstantial evidence?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I am working on an interesting case. Parcel A with a home next to vacant Parcel B which is next to Parcel C with a home. Vacant parcel B and improved parcel
C are owned by Mrs. C.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">40 years ago the owner of Parcel A allegedly planted trees, bushes, etc. along the side of vacant parcel B and claims that she periodically (regularly?) pruned,
trimmed, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Mrs. C was known as very friendly, neighborly, etc. When one stands on Parcel C, the row of trees and other vegetation on the other side of the vacant parcel
B actually provides a screen that blocks out the home on Parcel A that frankly is not particularly attractive. It is not difficult to recognize the strong possibility that Mrs. C gave permission because of the screening effect of the plantings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">OK – here is the problem. The friendly neighborly Mrs. C dies last year and so far I cannot uncover anyone who will testify that Mrs. C gave the owner of Parcel
A permission to plant on the vacant Parcel B.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Sure enough, the Estate wants to sell Parcel B and now the owner of Parcel A says “I own a roughly 10 foot strip along the edge of Parcel A by adverse possession.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’ve been reading the cases dealing with neighborly accommodation. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This is arguably one of the reasons adverse possession principles are viewed by many with disfavor. What might well have been a neighborly accommodation now
creates the risk that the estate loses a chunk of land because the very friendly Mrs. C did not run to a lawyer to draft the permission letter or license or revocable easement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Any thoughts or experience with use of circumstantial evidence in the adverse possession/prescriptive easement context will be much appreciated!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red">I AM TYPICALLY IN THE SEATTLE OFFICE ON TUESDAY AND THURSDAY AND IN THE MOUNT VERNON OFFICE ON MONDAY, WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ronald G. Housh, P.S.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Seattle Office:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">1420 Fifth Avenue, Suite 3000<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Seattle, WA 98101-2393<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Fax: 206-464-0461<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Email:
<a href="mailto:ron@housh.org"><span style="color:#1F497D">ron@housh.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Mount Vernon Office:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Roger Hawkes<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 16, 2015 3:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Prescriptive Easement for a Well?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In most cases that will be true; but the permission can be altered later by user asserting a ‘right’.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Roger Hawkes, WSBA # 5173<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">19909 Ballinger Way NE<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Shoreline, WA 98155<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.hawkeslawfirm.com"><span style="color:blue">www.hawkeslawfirm.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">206 367 5000<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 16, 2015 2:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Prescriptive Easement for a Well?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I don’t know the answer to that specifically but you can’t have adverse or prescriptive claims if they began permissively.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Rich Holland<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David Faber<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 16, 2015 1:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> wsbarp<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBARP] Prescriptive Easement for a Well?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have a prospective client up here in Jefferson County who owns a parcel which is fed water from a neighboring parcel. The PC has owned the parcel for 15 years and has used that well for the full 15 years. Now, the PC wants to sell the
property but there is no recorded well agreement or easement to the benefit of the PC's property. The neighbor is now demanding $10,000.00 from PC to sign a well agreement. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My question: does Washington State recognize a prescriptive right to access a well? Any alternative routes that members of this listserv can think of?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">David J. Faber<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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