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<b>John --- Thank you.</b><b><br>
</b><b><br>
</b><b>So am I right to assume that a "Transcript of a Judgment" is
a District Court document & is moot as regards a Judgment
Summary</b><b> entered in a Superior Court?</b><b><br>
</b><b><br>
</b><b>Lastly, I understand that I may obtain an Abstract of
Judgment from the Superior Court in which the Judgment Summary was
entered. When filing that Abstract in another Superior Court (ie,
in a different county), does that require the payment of </b><b>another
$240 filing fee? If not, what does it require?</b><br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/20/2015 8:55 AM, John McCrady
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:olive">There may be
technical distinctions with which I am not familiar, but in
usage:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:olive"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="color:olive"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1)<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="color:olive"> A judgment summary is the summary of
the terms of the judgment, place on the first page of the
filed Superior Court Judgment<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="color:olive"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2)<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="color:olive">A Transcript of a District Court
Judgment is filed in Superior Court, in order to, in my
world, allow the judgment to attach to real estate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="color:olive"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3)<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="color:olive">When a Superior Court in Thurston County
enters a judgment, but the Creditor wants the judgment to
attach to Pierce County property, an Abstract of the
Thurston County Judgment is filed in Pierce County Superior
Court.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Orchard Street West<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:olive">University
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:olive"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Richard Wills<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 20, 2015 7:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] filing transcript of
judgment enough?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>John --- Would you please describe the
differences between:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><b>A Judgment Summary;</b><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><b>A Judgment Transcript; &</b><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><b>A Judgment Abstract.</b><o:p></o:p></li>
</ul>
<p><b>Richard Wills</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 1/16/2015 4:44 PM, John McCrady wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#003300">The recording
of the transcript does not result in a lien on anything
but excess value of homestead property. That is why you
would want to also file the abstract with the superior
court when the debtor owns anything suspected to be
non-homestead property.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#003300"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:HelveticaNeueETW01-55Rg;color:#003300">John
McCrady</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:HelveticaNeueETW01-55Rg;color:#003300">Counsel</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#003300">Puget
Sound Title Company</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#003300">5350
Orchard Street West</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#003300">University
Place WA 98466</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#003300">253-476-5721</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#003300"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Josh Grant<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 16, 2015 3:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] filing transcript of
judgment enough?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">OK,
that helps a lot. I was thinking, why do we file a
transcript of judgment (also referred to as abstract
of judgment??) in superior court if we are going to
record the judgment with the Auditor.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This
residential property we hope to realize on has been
rented out for some time, and the debtors now live
out of state, but I suppose they could claim it as a
homestead?? So having done both I guess we are
covered.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Joshua
F. Grant, PS<br>
Attorney at Law<br>
P. O. Box 619<br>
Wilbur, WA 99185<br>
tel 509 647 5578<br>
fax 509 647 2734</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:j.mccrady@pstitle.com"
title="j.mccrady@pstitle.com">John McCrady</a>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Sent:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">
Friday, January 16, 2015 3:11 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">To:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com"
title="wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">WSBA Real
Property Listserv</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Subject:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> Re:
[WSBARP] filing transcript of judgment enough?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#993366">I
believe that recording the transcript in the
auditor’s office is sufficient (and required) to
create a lien on excess value of homestead property.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#993366">In
order to create a lien on non-homestead property I
believe you need to file an abstract of the judgment
at the superior court where the property is located.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:HelveticaNeueETW01-55Rg;color:#993366">John
McCrady</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:HelveticaNeueETW01-55Rg;color:#993366">Counsel</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#993366">Puget
Sound Title Company</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#993366">5350
Orchard Street West</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#993366">University
Place WA 98466</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#993366">253-476-5721</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Josh Grant<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 16, 2015 2:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] filing transcript
of judgment enough?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Ok,
thanks. Just a simple recording sheet cover
page and no need to reference the real estate
we think the lien applies to?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Friday, January 16, 2015 2:46 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com"
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> Re:
[WSBARP] filing transcript of judgment
enough?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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6.13.090 suggests recording the judgment is
necessary.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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against homestead owner — Lien on excess value
of homestead property.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Berlin
Sans FB ;color:#1F497D",serif">A judgment
against the owner of a homestead shall become
a lien on the value of the homestead property
in excess of the homestead exemption from the
time the judgment creditor records the
judgment with the recording officer of the
county where the property is located. However,
if a judgment of a district court of this
state has been transferred to a superior
court, the judgment becomes a lien from the
time of recording with such recording officer
a duly certified abstract of the record of
such judgment as it appears in the office of
the clerk in which the transfer was originally
filed. A department of revenue tax warrant
filed pursuant to RCW 82.32.210 shall become a
lien on the value of the homestead property in
excess of the homestead exemption from the
time of filing in superior court.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Josh Grant<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 16, 2015 2:30
PM<br>
<b>To:</b> wsbar<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBARP] filing transcript
of judgment enough?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I
have obtained a judgment for my client.
I found a house in a different county on
defendant’s name. I have filed a
transcript of judgment with the superior
court of that neighboring county. The
house is supposedly going to be sold. Is
filing the transcript sufficient? One
attorney suggested to my client that a
lis pendens also had to be filed. What
do you-all think?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Joshua
F. Grant, PS<br>
Attorney at Law<br>
P. O. Box 619<br>
Wilbur, WA 99185<br>
tel 509 647 5578<br>
fax 509 647 2734</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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