[WSBARP] WSBARP Digest, Vol 104, Issue 2

Stephen Whitehouse swhite8893 at aol.com
Wed May 3 09:03:43 PDT 2023


On the lack of probate affidavit, I always confer with a title company I work with and  run it by with them to insure that the documentation in the affidavit is sufficient for them to insure title. The goal is to not establish perfect title, but marketable title. If the title company is satisfied with what I have put together, and will insure a subsequent conveyance, then we have marketable title. 
Steve 
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Today's Topics:

  1. Deed v Lack of Probate Affidavit (Mark Anderson)
  2. Re: Deed v Lack of Probate Affidavit (Britt, Christopher)
  3. Re: Deed v Lack of Probate Affidavit (Bryce Dille)
  4. Re: Deed v Lack of Probate Affidavit (Stromberg, Spencer)
  5. Pasadena CA Probate Counsel (Catherine Clark)
  6. Re: Deed v Lack of Probate Affidavit (Eric Nelsen)
  7. Re: Deed v Lack of Probate Affidavit (Mark Anderson)
  8. Referral for Lien Dispute - Homeowner Representation
      (Inge Fordham)
  9. Re: Referral for Lien Dispute - Homeowner Representation
      (Andrew Hay)


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I've gotten some conflicting and/or inconclusive input in response to this question.
Is a Lack of Probate Affidavit (LPA) effective to convey fee simple title?  If your answer is "yes," please explain how it meets the requirements for a Deed under RCW 64.04.010.
Thanks.
Mark B. Anderson
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This has been a matter of debate within our firm but one take would be that
real estate passes immediately upon death by operation of law.  The lack of
probate affidavit is more informational in nature to inform title industry
professionals know what happened to that decedent for the purposes of
understanding title.

Christopher G. Britt, M.A., J.D.

Attorney at Law

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> I?ve gotten some conflicting and/or inconclusive input in response to this
> question.
>
> Is a Lack of Probate Affidavit (LPA) effective to convey fee simple
> title?  If your answer is ?yes,? please explain how it meets the
> requirements for a Deed under RCW 64.04.010.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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Date: Tue, 2 May 2023 21:10:57 +0000
From: Bryce Dille <Bryce at dillelaw.com>
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Deed v Lack of Probate Affidavit
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That the affidavit does not transfer a title, but establishes that there is a descedent and that there are heirs under the laws of dissent and distribution, and who they are in that title automatically vests in those heirs by virtue of RCW 11.0 4.250 and therefore no deed is required.

Bryce H. Dille
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On May 2, 2023, at 1:57 PM, Mark Anderson <marka at mbaesq.com> wrote:

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I?ve gotten some conflicting and/or inconclusive input in response to this question.
Is a Lack of Probate Affidavit (LPA) effective to convey fee simple title?  If your answer is ?yes,? please explain how it meets the requirements for a Deed under RCW 64.04.010.
Thanks.
Mark B. Anderson
ANDERSON LAW FIRM PLLC
821 Dock St  Ste 209  PMB 4-12
Tacoma, Washington 98402
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+1 253-327-1751 (fax)
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Date: Tue, 2 May 2023 14:22:18 -0700
From: "Stromberg, Spencer" <spencer at lucentlaw.com>
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Deed v Lack of Probate Affidavit
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I agree with Chris and Bryce that an LPA is effective only to provide
notice that title transferred by operation of law - it does not itself
convey title. I may be in the minority, but I think title companies use
LPAs too liberally, and they really are only appropriate to clarify the
rights of surviving spouses with regard to community property or heirs at
law where there is no Will (although I don't really like them for
non-spouses). The fact that there is a statute and a WAC authorizing the
use of LPAs in other scenarios for a REET exemption does not resolve the
fact that an LPA doesn't convey title or constitute administration of the
estate under any statute that I'm aware of. Where there is a Will, I think
RCW 11.04.250 requires probate, even if the devisees are the same as if the
decedent were intestate.

*Spencer A. W. Stromberg*
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On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 2:17?PM Bryce Dille <Bryce at dillelaw.com> wrote:

> That the affidavit does not transfer a title, but establishes that there
> is a descedent and that there are heirs under the laws of dissent and
> distribution, and who they are in that title automatically vests in those
> heirs by virtue of RCW 11.0 4.250 and therefore no deed is required.
>
> Bryce H. Dille
> Dille Law, PLLC
> Office: 360-350-0270
> Cell: 253-579-5561
>
> ** Please note that I use the dictation feature of my iPhone and that
> sometimes everything I say does not get properly translated**
>
> On May 2, 2023, at 1:57 PM, Mark Anderson <marka at mbaesq.com> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> I?ve gotten some conflicting and/or inconclusive input in response to this
> question.
>
> Is a Lack of Probate Affidavit (LPA) effective to convey fee simple
> title?  If your answer is ?yes,? please explain how it meets the
> requirements for a Deed under RCW 64.04.010.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> *Mark B. Anderson *ANDERSON LAW FIRM PLLC
> 821 Dock St  Ste 209  PMB 4-12
> Tacoma, Washington 98402
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Date: Tue, 2 May 2023 21:39:20 +0000
From: Catherine Clark <Cat at loccc.com>
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Subject: [WSBARP] Pasadena CA Probate Counsel
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All:

Am looking for a referral to counsel in Pasadena to open an ancillary probate to address a bank account in a Cali bank.

Thank you.

Catherine ?Cat? Clark
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Date: Tue, 2 May 2023 21:46:07 +0000
From: Eric Nelsen <eric at sayrelawoffices.com>
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Deed v Lack of Probate Affidavit
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Agree with Spencer, Bryce, and Christopher. I think a Lack of Probate Affidavit does no more (and no less) than insert some attested facts into a document in the public record which, if correct, would tend to show how RCW 11.04.250 (and/or a community property agreement) has operated to transfer a decedent?s real property to the heirs at law. Or if an unprobated Will is involved, the LOPA shows, if the will were to be probated and found valid, who would end up with the real property interest.

The LOPA is only useful for trying to convince a title company that they should insure title without requiring a probate. It is not a lawful instrument that actually conveys title. The LOPA creates no actual rights in the property that a person named in it could enforce.

If a probate is started (or an adjudication of intestacy or testacy) and the court adjudicates a different outcome, that will always prevail over a LOPA.

Sincerely,

Eric

Eric C. Nelsen
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Deed v Lack of Probate Affidavit

I agree with Chris and Bryce that an LPA is effective only to provide notice that title transferred by operation of law - it does not itself convey title. I may be in the minority, but I think title companies use LPAs too liberally, and they really are only appropriate to clarify the rights of surviving spouses with regard to community property or heirs at law where there is no Will (although I don't really like them for non-spouses). The fact that there is a statute and a WAC authorizing the use of LPAs in other scenarios for a REET exemption does not resolve the fact that an LPA doesn't convey title or constitute administration of the estate under any statute that I'm aware of. Where there is a Will, I think RCW 11.04.250 requires probate, even if the devisees are the same as if the decedent were intestate.

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On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 2:17?PM Bryce Dille <Bryce at dillelaw.com<mailto:Bryce at dillelaw.com>> wrote:
That the affidavit does not transfer a title, but establishes that there is a descedent and that there are heirs under the laws of dissent and distribution, and who they are in that title automatically vests in those heirs by virtue of RCW 11.0 4.250 and therefore no deed is required.
Bryce H. Dille
Dille Law, PLLC
Office: 360-350-0270
Cell: 253-579-5561

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On May 2, 2023, at 1:57 PM, Mark Anderson <marka at mbaesq.com<mailto:marka at mbaesq.com>> wrote:
?
I?ve gotten some conflicting and/or inconclusive input in response to this question.
Is a Lack of Probate Affidavit (LPA) effective to convey fee simple title?  If your answer is ?yes,? please explain how it meets the requirements for a Deed under RCW 64.04.010.
Thanks.
Mark B. Anderson
ANDERSON LAW FIRM PLLC
821 Dock St  Ste 209  PMB 4-12
Tacoma, Washington 98402
+1 253-327-1750
+1 253-327-1751 (fax)
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Date: Tue, 2 May 2023 23:15:15 +0000
From: Mark Anderson <marka at mbaesq.com>
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Deed v Lack of Probate Affidavit
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Thank you all for your input.  Here are my takeaways from this conversation, a harder look at this, and a review of RCW 11.04.250:
If a person dies intestate, title to any real property owned by that person immediately vests in that person's heirs under RCW 11.04.250.  In this case, it looks like a Lack of Probate Affidavit serves as notice that title has passed by operation of law.  Unfortunately, that still does not seem to address the requirement that conveyance be by a Deed under RCW 64.04.010.
If a person dies testate, title to any real property owned by that person immediately vests in that person?s devisees, but only after the will has been probated (because, under RCW 11.04.250, "no person shall be deemed a devisee until the will has been probated").  If a will has been probated, then it would not be appropriate to use a Lack of Probate Affidavit because, after all, there is no "lack of probate."  If a will is being probated, then an appropriate deed should be used instead.
In either case, title to the property is still subject to the decedent's debts, family allowance, expense of administration, etc.
Mark B. Anderson
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Sent: 05/02/2023 2:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Deed v Lack of Probate Affidavit

Agree with Spencer, Bryce, and Christopher. I think a Lack of Probate Affidavit does no more (and no less) than insert some attested facts into a document in the public record which, if correct, would tend to show how RCW 11.04.250 (and/or a community property agreement) has operated to transfer a decedent?s real property to the heirs at law. Or if an unprobated Will is involved, the LOPA shows, if the will were to be probated and found valid, who would end up with the real property interest.

The LOPA is only useful for trying to convince a title company that they should insure title without requiring a probate. It is not a lawful instrument that actually conveys title. The LOPA creates no actual rights in the property that a person named in it could enforce.

If a probate is started (or an adjudication of intestacy or testacy) and the court adjudicates a different outcome, that will always prevail over a LOPA.

Sincerely,

Eric

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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Deed v Lack of Probate Affidavit

I agree with Chris and Bryce that an LPA is effective only to provide notice that title transferred by operation of law - it does not itself convey title. I may be in the minority, but I think title companies use LPAs too liberally, and they really are only appropriate to clarify the rights of surviving spouses with regard to community property or heirs at law where there is no Will (although I don't really like them for non-spouses). The fact that there is a statute and a WAC authorizing the use of LPAs in other scenarios for a REET exemption does not resolve the fact that an LPA doesn't convey title or constitute administration of the estate under any statute that I'm aware of. Where there is a Will, I think RCW 11.04.250 requires probate, even if the devisees are the same as if the decedent were intestate.

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On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 2:17?PM Bryce Dille <Bryce at dillelaw.com<mailto:Bryce at dillelaw.com>> wrote:
That the affidavit does not transfer a title, but establishes that there is a descedent and that there are heirs under the laws of dissent and distribution, and who they are in that title automatically vests in those heirs by virtue of RCW 11.0 4.250 and therefore no deed is required.
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On May 2, 2023, at 1:57 PM, Mark Anderson <marka at mbaesq.com<mailto:marka at mbaesq.com>> wrote:
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I?ve gotten some conflicting and/or inconclusive input in response to this question.
Is a Lack of Probate Affidavit (LPA) effective to convey fee simple title?  If your answer is ?yes,? please explain how it meets the requirements for a Deed under RCW 64.04.010.
Thanks.
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Date: Wed, 3 May 2023 01:06:49 +0000
From: Inge Fordham <inge at fordhamlegal.com>
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: [WSBARP] Referral for Lien Dispute - Homeowner Representation
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Colleagues:

This is cross-posted.  Apologies if you receive it twice.  A PC contacted me for assistance with a lien foreclosure action asserted by a contractor.  I am swamped and don?t have capacity to assist.  Location is Thurston County.  The details I have are as follows:

I have a lien on my home placed back in October. On May 19th, the case schedule is to be set on the foreclosure on my home. [The contractor] was not honest regarding charges, they doubled charged for materials and charged for work not performed.  I have documentation proving such allegations.  If this does go to trial, I do plan on countersuing [the contractor].  I am seeking council to assist me with this matter.

Please let me know if you can assist.  All referrals will be forwarded.

Best regards,


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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 3 May 2023 04:33:42 +0000
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Hi Inge ? I handle these cases.

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Subject: [WSBARP] Referral for Lien Dispute - Homeowner Representation

Colleagues:

This is cross-posted.  Apologies if you receive it twice.  A PC contacted me for assistance with a lien foreclosure action asserted by a contractor.  I am swamped and don?t have capacity to assist.  Location is Thurston County.  The details I have are as follows:

I have a lien on my home placed back in October. On May 19th, the case schedule is to be set on the foreclosure on my home. [The contractor] was not honest regarding charges, they doubled charged for materials and charged for work not performed.  I have documentation proving such allegations.  If this does go to trial, I do plan on countersuing [the contractor].  I am seeking council to assist me with this matter.

Please let me know if you can assist.  All referrals will be forwarded.

Best regards,


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