[WSBARP] Federally backed mortgages and evictions

K. Garl Long Garl at longlaw.biz
Wed Jan 18 14:21:24 PST 2023


"won't the courts argue", maybe the court should leave argument to the 
lawyers.

KGL

On 1/18/23 11:52, Jeff at bellanddavispllc.com wrote:
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> I would love to avoid the UDA, under the present law, and just eject.  
> However, won’t the court’s argue you are denying the Tenants the 
> (onerous) protections provided by the new RCW 59.18.  Denying them 
> moving costs, to be paid by the Landlord, recovery of rent, penalties, 
> attorney’s fees.
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> *From:* wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com 
> <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> *On Behalf Of *Kaitlyn Jackson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 17, 2023 1:40 PM
> *To:* WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Federally backed mortgages and evictions
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> Jason -
>
> I would LOVE to know what grounds Judge Faris based that opinion on 
> given several facts, including but not limited to the fact that 
> Superior Court is a court of general jurisdiction.
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> On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 11:04 AM Jason Burnett 
> <jburnett at reedlongyearlaw.com> wrote:
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>     I recently learned that Judge Ana Faris in Snohomish County thinks
>     that landlords are obligated to use the unlawful detainer process
>     and that ejectment is unavailable other than as ancillary relief
>     to a quiet title action.
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>     <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> *On Behalf Of *Kaitlyn Jackson
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, January 17, 2023 10:38 AM
>     *To:* WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
>     *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Federally backed mortgages and evictions
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>     You might as well just all move to 30 day notices no matter what.
>     /Pinzon /applies to more than just federally backed mortgages. If
>     a tenant receives federal subsidies, then it also applies. There's
>     no clear way to totally determine whether or not a property/tenant
>     is subject to the CARES Act. In court the other day, I watched an
>     unlawful detainer hearing where the plaintiff was sure the
>     property was not subject to CARES//Pinzon, /but the defense
>     attorney used some website that claimed it was (though the website
>     specifically stated it was not guaranteeing accuracy) and the
>     Commissioner said the only person "with knowledge" to provide a
>     declaration was a qualified title officer as part of a title
>     review. So, if a landlord wishes to move forward, then the
>     landlord likely has to line up a title officer to do a search and
>     provide a declaration one way or the other. AND don't forget that
>     evictions take 4-6 months (at least they do in King County), SO
>     there's no guarantee that the loan, even if not federally backed,
>     is not sold during that time period to Fannie or Freddie. So, in
>     that circumstance the landlord would have to start all over at the
>     beginning if that were to happen at any point before the Sheriff
>     executed the writ.
>
>     Might as well bypass the whole thing and just move to all 30 day
>     notices while this mess gets worked out by the Supreme Court.
>     /Pinzon /is a mess.
>
>     Food for thought - the unlawful detainer statute was created for a
>     quick and efficient way to resolve the issue of possession. It's
>     no longer quick, it's no longer efficient, and it's no longer
>     affordable for many landlords. Some are starting to consider
>     walking away from unlawful detainers and just file full on
>     ejectment cases because now they are likely faster and can resolve
>     all issues more effectively than unlawful detainers can.
>
>     KJ
>
>     On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 6:49 AM Kary Krismer <Krismer at comcast.net>
>     wrote:
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>         If you look at the definition for 1-4 family homes it includes
>         Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac loans, so it would be virtually all
>         home loans except maybe those portfolio lenders like
>         Washington Federal.
>
>         15 USC 9058.
>
>         The same is true of 5 units and above, but I have no idea how
>         common Fannie and Freddie are in those type of loans.
>
>         There are also Internet tools I remember from the financial
>         crisis, but I have not idea used or even thought about those
>         for years.
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>         Kary L. Krismer
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>         On 1/17/2023 6:23 AM, Annie Fitzsimmons wrote:
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>             Good Morning.  If you've not yet read /Sherwood Auburn LLC
>             v. Pinzon/, 521 P.3d 212 (Wash. Ct. App. 2022), then
>             reading it will get your Tuesday-masquerading-as-a-Monday
>             off to a startling start.  Spoiler alert: based on the
>             CARES Act, all  landlords with a federally backed mortgage
>             must give 30 days notice before initiating an eviction
>             based on unpaid rent.
>
>             Question:  How do you know if a mortgage is a "federally
>             backed mortgage"?  I know that FHA and VA loans are
>             federally backed.  Aren't there some conventional loans
>             that are federally backed?  If so, how do you determine if
>             it is or isn't?
>
>             Thanks! Annie
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