[WSBARP] Subject: Property Acquired by Adverse Possession - Calculating Property Tax to be Reimbursed

Carmen Rowe carmen at gryphonlawgroup.com
Thu Aug 24 12:44:04 PDT 2023


And honestly ... on a purely practical note (respecting that it's a good
and interesting question to know the answer to):

I am guessing the amount of taxes for such a small period of time, and what
is likely a very small percentage of land (especially if one point is in
the same place) - remembering you're only looking at the value of the land,
not with improvements etc. - are minimal compared to the attorney
time/surveyor time that would be taken up in any "official" evaluations.

I'd see if you can't just "eye-ball" a rough approximate fair number, round
up, and offer that in lieu of everyone paying professional
(lawyer/surveyor) fees to debate it.

I hope that did not come off as being critical of your working through the
parameters of such a calculation - just as a practical bit of advice that
has typically worked well for me in the past.


Carmen Rowe



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> Subject: [WSBARP] Property Acquired by Adverse Possession -
>         Calculating     Property Tax to be Reimbursed
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> Clients neighbors agreed to a boundary line agreement moving the property
> line based upon an old fence.  Neighbors purchased their property in
> October, 2021.  We have been waiting for their calculation of how much of
> the property taxes they paid, since purchase, the client should reimburse.
> This is not a straight fence, so the north point is almost on the original
> line but going south, the line wanders over more into the neighbor's old
> property line.  I am sure the surveyor can calculate the amount of land
> being conveyed to client as a percent of the total originally owned by
> neighbor.  Do you just apply that percent to the property taxes paid by
> neighbor for 2021 - 2023?
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> That would seem to be the logical approach, so long as the property taxes
> for neighbor's property were based on the location of the old property line
> in the first place.
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> Also, because neighbor bought their property in October 2021, they were
> only responsible to pay for roughly half of the second half taxes for that
> year.  Depending on how close to the end of October they closed on their
> purchase, they may or may not have paid the second half taxes in full after
> their obligation to do so was adjusted at closing.  So instead of relying
> on what taxes were paid by neighbor and having to prorate anything based on
> information from a closing settlement statement, I recommend you figure out
> what the tax obligation was for the period beginning when neighbor closed
> on their property and the date of the boundary line agreement and then
> apply the percentage to that number.
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> Listmates:
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> Clients neighbors agreed to a boundary line agreement moving the property
> line based upon an old fence.  Neighbors purchased their property in
> October, 2021.  We have been waiting for their calculation of how much of
> the property taxes they paid, since purchase, the client should reimburse.
> This is not a straight fence, so the north point is almost on the original
> line but going south, the line wanders over more into the neighbor's old
> property line.  I am sure the surveyor can calculate the amount of land
> being conveyed to client as a percent of the total originally owned by
> neighbor.  Do you just apply that percent to the property taxes paid by
> neighbor for 2021 - 2023?
>
> Jeff
>
> W. Jeff Davis
> BELL & DAVIS PLLC
> Attorneys at Law
> P.O. Box 510
> 720 E. Washington Street, Suite 105
> Sequim WA 98382
> Phone: (360) 683.1129
> Fax: (360) 683.1258
> email: jeff at bellanddavispllc.com<mailto:jeff at bellanddavispllc.com>
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