[WSBARP] [WSBAPT] Prescriptive Easement Claim and Probate
samuel at meylerlegal.com
samuel at meylerlegal.com
Wed Aug 2 15:58:06 PDT 2023
Thanks, Eric. That is my reasoning as well.
Samuel M. Meyler
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] [WSBARP] Prescriptive Easement Claim and Probate
Your instinct is correct, the creditor claim process doesn't apply to such
claims. The statutory process is only for claims for money "as a general
charge against the assets of the estate," meaning a mere unsecured debt owed
by the decedent. A dispute over ownership of specific property that the
Estate also claims is not subject to the process. These aren't exactly on
point for adverse possession, but see O'Steen v. Wineberg's Estate, 30
Wn.App. 923 (1982), Compton v. Westerman, 150 Wash. 391 (1928), Gottwig v.
Blaine, 59 Wn.App. 99 (1990), Baird v. Knutzen, 49 Wn.2d 308 (1956), Foley
v. Smith, 14 Wn.App. 285 (1975).
For adverse possession, I think it's logical that a creditor claim does not
need to be filed. The claimant has actual possession of the claimed
property, and it's really the Estate who should have to file for trespass
and ejectment against the claimant. If that suit by the Estate to recover
the property is barred by 10-year statute of limitations, then conversely
the claimant has to be entitled to quiet title in themselves.
Let's say the claimant doesn't bother to file against the Estate. The Estate
will eventually deed the property either to a buyer or to heirs. At that
point the claimant can sue the current holders of the property, based on
adverse possession, and again the lack of a claim against the Estate can't
be a problem. Otherwise, every time a property owner died, all adverse
possession claims against them would be re-set to zero, contrary to the
principles of tacking of adverse possession.
Sincerely,
Eric
Eric C. Nelsen
Sayre Law Offices, PLLC
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Seattle WA 98144-3909
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Subject: [WSBARP] Prescriptive Easement Claim and Probate
Is the claimant of a prescriptive easement and/or adverse possession against
a decedent's property entitled to notice to creditor and are such claims
subject to claim limitation periods in probate? In other words, is a claim
for a prescriptive easement and/or adverse possession barred if the claimant
fails to present the claim within the limitations period set forth in RCW
11.40 et seq.?
I am not finding any authority directly on point. It would seem strange
that claims that are considered perfected after the required period would be
barred and I would not call a claimant in this scenario a "creditor," but
these surely are "claims."
Sam
Samuel M. Meyler
Meyler Legal, PLLC
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Seattle, Washington 98109
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