[WSBARP] Avoiding RCW 64.90 - Common Interest Communities Statute

Bryce Dille Bryce at dillelaw.com
Fri Sep 23 09:28:45 PDT 2022


For creation of CIC See RCW 64.90.200 it is created when declaration recorded and survey map recorded not when Articles or similar docs are executed and or filed.

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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Avoiding RCW 64.90 - Common Interest Communities Statute

Kelby,

Thank you for your response.  I had not looked at it like you explained; but you make sense!

Jeff

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From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> On Behalf Of Kelby Derenick
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Avoiding RCW 64.90 - Common Interest Communities Statute

I always thought the common interest community was established when the CCRs were recorded, not necessarily when the association was incorporated.  I have had cases with unincorporated and incorporated associations that apply RCW 64.38.  So I wouldn't think it would matter if the community wants to incorporate now in regards to whether 64.90 applies.  I think the controlling date is when the CCRs were recorded.  I could be wrong though...

However, even if RCW 64.38 applies, there are a few statutes in 64.90 that will still apply - see 64.90.080 ( RCW 64.90.100<http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.90.100>, RCW 64.90.095<http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.90.095>, 64.90.405<http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.90.405>(1) (b) and (c), 64.90.525<http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.90.525> and 64.90.545<http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.90.545> apply).

I found all of RCW 64.90 such a headache to understand.

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On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 3:15 PM <Jeff at bellanddavispllc.com<mailto:Jeff at bellanddavispllc.com>> wrote:
Listmates,

I am not sure if RCW 64.90 can be avoided, but here is the problem.  In 2006, a subdivision was created with recorded CC & R’s.  The CC & R’s purportedly established a homeowners association which was expressly unincorporated.  It did give the option to incorporate.  Nothing was ever done.  No board was established, no dues assessed, or were restrictive covenants enforced.  Like in the movies, we forward to “present day.”  A substantial majority of lot owners want to incorporate in order to establish a board and assess dues, primarily for road maintenance.  However, they want to be governed under RCW 64.38 not 64.90.

In reading RCW 64.90.075(4), it appears to say if the newly created community declaration expressly states it is part of the community created before July 1, 2018, that the newly created one is governed under RCW 64.38.  I know I can make any argument I want, but will an “unincorporated” association qualify  as the preexisting common interest community?

Jeff Davis

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