[WSBARP] REET tax and change of cotnrolling interest

[Josh Grant]

Thanks Eric

Joshua F. Grant

P. O. Box 619
Wilbur, WA 99185
509 647 5578

From: Eric Nelsen 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2022 11:41 AM
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv 
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] REET tax and change of cotnrolling interest

I read WAC 458-61A-101 to mean that the focus of the tax is on what total percentage is transferred from the grantor, and it doesn’t matter what the resulting grantee interests are. If the grantor transfers less than 50%, then there is no transfer of a controlling interest and there is no tax. If the grantor transfers a total of 50% or more, then the tax is triggered, even if the grantor transfers that 50% in small amounts to a dozen different grantees such that no grantee gains a controlling interest.

 

Note also that the tax is determined based on a total of all transfers from a particular grantor that occur within a 36-month period. Also consider the effect of the “acting in concert” rules under WAC 458-61A-101(2)(e) for when multiple grantors would be considered in the aggregate for purposes of analyzing whether 50% has been transferred.

 

In your example, if parents hold 48%, and transfer away all 48% to the kids in equal shares, I think no tax is triggered because the total interest transferred is less than 50% (even if mom and dad are “acting in concert”).

 

Sincerely,

 

Eric

 

Eric C. Nelsen

Sayre Law Offices, PLLC

1417 31st Ave South

Seattle WA 98144-3909

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eric at sayrelawoffices.com

 

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From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> On Behalf Of Josh Grant
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2022 11:09 AM
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] REET tax and change of cotnrolling interest

 

 

Happy to Rod...

More simply,  When less than 50% minority members assign their membership interest to kids (who are also minority members); and after assignment kids are still all minority members, and it is a gift... not a sale...  I assume there is no requirement to file a controlling interest REET affid. and/or pay REET taxes?

thanks

Josh

Joshua F. Grant

P. O. Box 619
Wilbur, WA 99185
509 647 5578

 

From: Rod Harmon 

Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2022 9:14 AM

To: WSBA Real Property Listserv 

Subject: Re: [WSBARP] REET tax and change of cotnrolling interest

 

Joshua, I am not following your math.  Could you clarify?

 

Rod Harmon

 

RODNEY T. HARMON

       Attorney at Law

         P.O. Box 1066

      Bothell, WA   98041

     Tel:   (425) 402-7800

     Fax:  (425) 458-9096

    www.rodharmon.com

   rodharmon at msn.com

 

 

 

 

From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com On Behalf Of Josh Grant
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 3:48 PM
To: wsbar <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: [WSBARP] REET tax and change of cotnrolling interest

 

Mom and dad own 48% (25% each) of an LLC with a $1,000,000 parcel of real estate. The kdis own the rest.

Mom and Dad gifted their 48% to the kids so now the kids each own 25% of the LLC each.

No sale all gifts.

Please confirm that the Controlling Interest Transfer, in this case where there is no sale.. is not triggered. 

Thanks

Joshua F. Grant

P. O. Box 619
Wilbur, WA 99185
509 647 5578


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