[WSBARP] Urgent question for u/d hearing

Paul Neumiller pneumiller at hotmail.com
Wed Jul 20 10:14:10 PDT 2022


"That said, if the other tenants appeared through counsel with this answer, you could argue that the violation was de minimis as they have not been prejudiced and starting over again would be too much of a sanction for a 90-day notice."

Playing devil's advocate, I can just hear the justice project attorney arguing that UD is a statutory remedy and the notice provisions must be strictly followed.  Just saying.


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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Urgent question for u/d hearing

Hi Gwendolyn,

If I were on the Tenant's side, I would argue that RCW 59.12.040 does require mailing for all the other copies for the additional tenants.

That said, if the other tenants appeared through counsel with this answer, you could argue that the violation was de minimis as they have not been prejudiced and starting over again would be too much of a sanction for a 90-day notice.

Let us know how it goes!

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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Urgent question for u/d hearing

Thank you for responding.  My question is if it wasn't just served on a person of suitable age and discretion, but copies for all tenants were personally served to one tenant is mailing still required?  The person who was personally served was also a tenant.  Does this make a difference?

Thank you,

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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Urgent question for u/d hearing

Gwendolyn,

I am assuming the 90 day notice issued under RCW 59.18.650(2).  If so, at the end of that statute, under section 6(a), it states that all notices must be served as provided in RCW 59.12.040.  Under that statute, in section (2), it states that if the person to be served is absent from the premises, then serve on a person of suitable age and discretion AND mail the notice addressed directly to the tenant to be served.

I could be going down the wrong path if it was a notice served not pursuant to RCW 59.18.650.  I hope this helps.

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On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 5:28 PM Gwendolyn Cornwell <Gwendolyn at glgmail.com<mailto:Gwendolyn at glgmail.com>> wrote:
All,

I have a u/d hearing on Thursday.  This afternoon the tenant's attorney served and filed the answer, which throws everything at us.
One of the defenses is that our 90-day notice, which included several named tenants and "All other occupants" was personally served on one of the unnamed tenants and therefore required mailing.
I had the idea that mailing is only required if the notice is served on "a suitable person" who is not a tenant as well.  My question is, when serving multiple tenants, is it sufficient to serve one tenant with all copies, or does that require mailing as well?
Is there anything to cite to on this?

Thank you!

Gwendolyn Cornwell
Attorney
Gourley Law Group
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