[WSBARP] Can a Will Revoke a JTWROS

John J. Sullivan sullaw at comcast.net
Wed Oct 27 09:09:28 PDT 2021


Jeff:

I would have the client deed his interest to himself as TIC, severing the JT. 

https://www.santaellalaw.com/blog/2021/february/how-to-sever-joint-ownership-of-property/

I’m not a dirt attorney, but I would probably use a SWD rather than a QCD, to not risk losing title insurance. 

One thing I’m not certain of, but I believe the effect is to convert the spouse’s interest into TIC as well. 

John J. Sullivan

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> On Oct 27, 2021, at 8:48 AM, jeff at bellanddavispllc.com wrote:
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> John & Craig,
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> First, John,
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> I read RCW 64.28.010.  What does it mean that a joint tenant has a unilateral right to sever  the  joint tenancy.  How is that done?  Can the PC record a document saying he is severing the joint tenancy?
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> Craig,
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> I always understood that each spouse has a right to transfer their community interest, by Will, to anyone they want.  This become especially, painful, in a blended family setting where one spouse gives his or her CP interest to their children, without reserving a life estate in the surviving spouse.  Of course the step-children hate the evil step-parent and immediately move to sell the house to get their rightful share.
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> Jeff
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> Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Can a Will Revoke a JTWROS
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> I must ask: Isn't this actually community property? So don't you need that analysis as well, i.e. how to devise the client's 1/2 community interest in the property?
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> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 8:31 AM John J. Sullivan <sullaw at comcast.net> wrote:
> Jeff:
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> You are right that a super will provision will not achieve the client’s purpose. 
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> But “ [a] joint tenancy shall have the incidents of survivorship and severability as at common law, including the unilateral right of each tenant to sever the joint tenancy ….”
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> https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=64.28.010
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> The client can sever the JTWROS if he wants his interest to pass under his will to his son. 
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> John J. Sullivan
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> On Oct 27, 2021, at 6:56 AM, Jeff at bellanddavispllc.com wrote:
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> Listmates,
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> PC owns house with his wife as JTWROS.  He now wants to bequeath his ½ interest to his son.  This is a blended family and PC is afraid if he predeceases W, that W will leave everything to her children.  Can a Will, in essence a Super Will, defeat the Joint Tenancy?   In looking at RCW 11.11.010(7)(a)(i), it appears a JTWROS, like Transfer on Death Deeds, defeat any Will provision that tries to change those non-probate designations.  Have any of you had experience with this issue?
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> Jeff Davis
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