[WSBARP] 36 month residential lease not notarized

Paul Neumiller pneumiller at hotmail.com
Fri Oct 1 10:02:15 PDT 2021


Where is the requirement that "All conveyances of real property must be recorded?"  With the result that: "So, if this requirement was not waived, then the conveyance is not valid."    It is my understanding that the conveyance is effective between the parties when there is delivery of the conveyance between the parties but only fails to give notice to the world if not recorded.  Yes, the parties may lose priority in a "race-notice" statute state, but the conveyance is still valid.  The recording of the conveyance then gives notice to the world and may protect against the claims of a subsequent BFP.  In a commercial lease situation, the large national tenant is willing to take the risk that the large national LL is not going to try to lease the premises to a third party and get away with it.


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From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> On Behalf Of Kaitlyn Jackson
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] 36 month residential lease not notarized

All conveyances of real property must be recorded. A "conveyance" is a lease term of more than 2 years. I understand that commercial leases don't generally follow through with this - but I think most of the commercial leases I've drafted/reviewed have language where the parties waive this requirement. So, if this requirement was not waived, thaen the conveyance is not valid. I think the next question, however, is who has the right to enforce (or not enforce) this statute. I doubt that a party with unclean hands would have that benefit.

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On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 9:14 AM Athena Dickerson <athena at detsparlaw.com<mailto:athena at detsparlaw.com>> wrote:
Same, I hardly ever see leases recorded -and although I see memoranda of leases recorded on occasion it is usually when a big box player is involved (Kroger, Panera, etc)

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Not required, but not doing so could give rise to a record notice issue to third parties that take might interest in the property without actual knowledge of the lease.

In my experience, I don't see many memoranda of leases recorded in the commercial context.  Even less so with residential leases.

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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] 36 month residential lease not notarized

I thought leases over 2 years had to be recorded?

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There are cases that you should check out where the court has held continued possession, payment of rent and or improvements to the property constitute part performance and take it out of the statute of fraud restrictions.

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Subject: [WSBARP] 36 month residential lease not notarized

If a residential tenant under a 36 month residential lease and the landlord's signature is not notarized; does that mean it is only valid one year and the landlord can send a 90 day notice effective at the end of the first 12 months?  This case also involves many months of nonpayment of rent, I assume that also is a 90 day notice (which would be before the end of the one year).
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