[WSBARP] RCW 70.58A.530
Rod Harmon
rodharmon at msn.com
Wed Sep 16 09:11:05 PDT 2020
Steve:
With whom did you talk at DOH? It seems to me members of this listserve might want to give some input to the content of these new regulations.
Rod Harmon
RODNEY T. HARMON
Attorney at Law
P.O. Box 1066
Bothell, WA 98041
Tel: (425) 402-7800
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From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Whitehouse
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One of my staff talked to DOH and was told they are developing regulations that will say attorneys need a court order. I have not verified that.
Steve Whitehouse
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> From: Stephen Whitehouse <swhite8893 at aol.com>
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> Listmates, you might look at this. As of the first of the year we will no longer be able to get death certificates for quiet title actions, lien foreclosures, etc. You will have to go througha title company which I am sure they will be thrilled about.
> Steve
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> Railroad Ave.Shelton, Wa. 98584360-426-5885 swhite8893 at aol.com
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> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 21:02:30 +0000
> From: "Holland, Sean" <Sean.Holland at fnf.com>
> To: Stephen Whitehouse <swhite8893 at aol.com>, WSBA Real Property
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> Subject: Re: [WSBARP] RCW 70.58A.530
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> Death certificates in their current form will be available only to the parties identified in Subsection (9) of RCW 70.58A.530. Title companies will have access to short form death certificates under Subsection (10)(a). Attorneys needing a short form certificate to represent a client should be able to obtain one pursuant to Subsection (10)(b).
>
> (9) For a certification of death, the state or local registrar may release the certification only to:
> (a) The decedent's spouse or domestic partner, child, parent,
> stepparent, stepchild, sibling, grandparent, great grandparent,
> grandchild, legal guardian immediately prior to death, legal
> representative, authorized representative, or next of kin as specified
> in RCW
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> right to control the disposition of the human remains under RCW
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> within twelve months of the date of death; or
> (c) A government agency or court, if the certification will be used in the conduct of the agency's or court's official duties.
> (10) The state or local registrar may issue a short form certification of death that does not display information relating to cause and manner of death to a qualified applicant. In addition to the qualified applicants listed in subsection (9) of this section, a qualified applicant for a short form certification of death includes:
> (a) A title insurer or title insurance agent handling a transaction
> involving real property in which the decedent held some right, title,
> or interest; or
> (b) A person that demonstrates that the certified copy is necessary for a determination related to the death or the protection of a personal or property right related to the death.
>
>
> Sean Holland
> VP | Underwriting Counsel
> Washington & Montana
> Fidelity National Title Group
> 701 Fifth Avenue, Suite 2700
> Seattle, Washington 98104
> Mobile: 206-308-6823
> Sean.Holland at fnf.com<mailto:Sean.Holland at fnf.com>
>
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> From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com
> <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> On Behalf Of Stephen Whitehouse
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 12:10 PM
> To: wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com
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> IMPORTANT NOTICE - This message sourced from an external mail server outside of the Company.
> Listmates, you might look at this. As of the first of the year we will
> no longer be able to get death certificates for quiet title actions, lien foreclosures, etc. You will have to go through a title company which I am sure they will be thrilled about.
>
> Steve
> Stephen Whitehouse
> Whitehouse & Nichols, LLP
> P.O. Box 1273
> 601 W. Railroad Ave.
> Shelton, Wa. 98584
> 360-426-5885
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 03:03:31 +0000
> From: Rich Busch <rich.busch at wirelesscounsel.com>
> To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> Subject: [WSBARP] Referral - Residential Property Line Encroachments
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> Listmates:
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> PC needs referral to counsel experienced with property line disputes/encroachments of permanent improvements. PC couple: attorney and business manager. Self-referrals are welcome, and all referrals will be forwarded. Thank you in advance.
>
> Rich
> Richard J. Busch
> Busch Law Firm PLLC
> 1420 NW Gilman Blvd #9014
> Issaquah, WA 98027
> 425.458.3940 Office
> 206.265.3821 Wireless
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> From: "Gregory L. Ursich" <gursich at insleebest.com>
> To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Referral - Residential Property Line
> Encroachments
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> Rich: About 50% of my practice are these type of cases. I also handle
> title insurance claims for several large underwriters. I would be
> happy to talk to the PC. ?Greg Ursich
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> [mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Rich Busch
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 8:04 PM
> To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> Subject: [WSBARP] Referral - Residential Property Line Encroachments
>
> Listmates:
>
> PC needs referral to counsel experienced with property line disputes/encroachments of permanent improvements. PC couple: attorney and business manager. Self-referrals are welcome, and all referrals will be forwarded. Thank you in advance.
>
> Rich
> Richard J. Busch
> Busch Law Firm PLLC
> 1420 NW Gilman Blvd #9014
> Issaquah, WA 98027
> 425.458.3940 Office
> 206.265.3821 Wireless
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> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 17:20:16 +0000
> From: "Thomas M. Culbertson" <tculbertson at lukins.com>
> To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> Subject: Re: [WSBARP] RCW 70.58A.530
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> Doing a little digging I see that this comes from a 49 page act passed in 2019 concerning all vital records, and it is effective the first of next year, so we have a little time to learn what it?s all about. I see that a ?legal representative? may obtain a death certificate, and that term is defined as an attorney representing the subject of the record (how is that applied in the case of a decedent?) or representing a ?qualified applicant?, but I?m not finding a definition of that term. I wonder if there are any clarifying WACs?
>
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> From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com
> <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> On Behalf Of Holland, Sean
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 2:03 PM
> To: Stephen Whitehouse <swhite8893 at aol.com>; WSBA Real Property
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> Death certificates in their current form will be available only to the parties identified in Subsection (9) of RCW 70.58A.530. Title companies will have access to short form death certificates under Subsection (10)(a). Attorneys needing a short form certificate to represent a client should be able to obtain one pursuant to Subsection (10)(b).
>
> (9) For a certification of death, the state or local registrar may release the certification only to:
> (a) The decedent's spouse or domestic partner, child, parent,
> stepparent, stepchild, sibling, grandparent, great grandparent,
> grandchild, legal guardian immediately prior to death, legal
> representative, authorized representative, or next of kin as specified
> in RCW
> 11.28.120<https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%
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> (b) A funeral director, the funeral establishment licensed pursuant to
> chapter
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> record, within twelve months of the date of death; or
> (c) A government agency or court, if the certification will be used in the conduct of the agency's or court's official duties.
> (10) The state or local registrar may issue a short form certification of death that does not display information relating to cause and manner of death to a qualified applicant. In addition to the qualified applicants listed in subsection (9) of this section, a qualified applicant for a short form certification of death includes:
> (a) A title insurer or title insurance agent handling a transaction
> involving real property in which the decedent held some right, title,
> or interest; or
> (b) A person that demonstrates that the certified copy is necessary for a determination related to the death or the protection of a personal or property right related to the death.
>
>
> Sean Holland
> VP | Underwriting Counsel
> Washington & Montana
> Fidelity National Title Group
> 701 Fifth Avenue, Suite 2700
> Seattle, Washington 98104
> Mobile: 206-308-6823
> Sean.Holland at fnf.com<mailto:Sean.Holland at fnf.com>
>
>
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> <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarpp
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> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 12:10 PM
> To: wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> Subject: [WSBARP] RCW 70.58A.530
>
> IMPORTANT NOTICE - This message sourced from an external mail server outside of the Company.
> Listmates, you might look at this. As of the first of the year we will
> no longer be able to get death certificates for quiet title actions, lien foreclosures, etc. You will have to go through a title company which I am sure they will be thrilled about.
>
> Steve
> Stephen Whitehouse
> Whitehouse & Nichols, LLP
> P.O. Box 1273
> 601 W. Railroad Ave.
> Shelton, Wa. 98584
> 360-426-5885
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