[WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session
K. Garl Long
Garl at longlaw.biz
Thu Dec 17 14:08:20 PST 2020
If you choose to put money that you have earned into the pocket of the
owner of a dwelling, in exchange for the privilege of living there, it
is called a contract.
If the government expropriates the dwelling from the owner so that you
can live there without paying, it is theft. You may recall that the
Intolerable Acts included such expropriation of dwellings. This is what
our founders fought against, and which we now meekly accept.
KGL
On 12/17/2020 01:55 PM, Andrew Hay wrote:
>
> Voltaire again … As far as his notion of government taking money from
> one class and giving to another, as a non-landlord, I see my money
> going to the pockets of landlords. I fund governmental benefits with
> my taxes. Those benefits are paid to landlords for rent. Generally,
> rent paid to landlords by those on government benefits is a
> disproportionately high percentage of their income. Voltaire would
> likely conclude the landlords are the ones benefitting from this
> governmental transfer.
>
> Perhaps the moratorium suspends this transfer to landlords to allow my
> taxes to temporarily fund pandemic relief.
>
> *Andrew Hay*
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> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session
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> /It is not inequality which is the real misfortune, it is dependence.
> /Voltaire again.
>
> On 12/17/2020 11:25 AM, Rob Rowley wrote:
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> In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money
> as possible from one class of citizens to give to another. Voltaire.
>
> *From:* wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com
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> <mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> *On Behalf Of *Chris B
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:59 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session
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> I just entered into an agreement to sell 4 of my 12 rental homes
> as a package. All will be town down and replaced with McMansions.
> These are nice homes that I am proud to own, two of which have
> tenants in them for more than 10 years. While all my tenants are
> current in their rent, I no longer wish to be in the rental
> housing business in a state that is clearly trying to kill that
> business.
>
> As they say, it is “a feature, not a bug.”
>
> Chris Benis
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> Hecker, Wakefield & Feilberg, P.S.
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> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session
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> The long-term consequences of forcing landlords to absorb large
> financial losses are predictable: landlords will liquidate their
> real estate investments (they’ll sell). Tenants will have much
> less housing to choose from. Rental houses will be incredibly
> hard to find. The void might be filled by corporate landlords
> building apartments or government landlords building projects.
>
> This is very bad for tenants, long term. The loss of rental
> housing will affect all of us.
>
> *Rani K. Sampson*
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> Overcast Law Offices | Attorney
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> <mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> *On Behalf Of *Kary
> Krismer
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:37 AM
> *To:* wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com <mailto:wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session
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> You're generalizing. The moratorium protects an entire class
> regardless of their need, at the expense of another class,
> regardless of their need. If it were based on economics I'd have
> little problem with it, but it's not. Beyond that though, I'm
> worried about the long term adverse effects on those who actually
> need the protection. The moratorium may have given them a false
> sense of security and lead them to make bad decisions. Back when
> I practiced law I did primarily debtor bankruptcy and the
> moratorium is likely causing people to make decisions that no
> competent financial planner would ever advise them to make.
>
> Also, you can't even assume someone who rents cannot afford to
> own. They may just not wish to own for many different reasons.
>
> Kary L. Krismer
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> 206 723-2148
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> On 12/17/2020 10:20 AM, Andrew Hay wrote:
>
> I will take the pro moratorium position. Donning my suit of
> armor at the same time…..
>
> This is a time of great economic pain due to a pandemic
> unequaled by any health crisis in 100 years. The moratoriums
> are a policy protecting the most vulnerable people in the
> population as a whole – renters. As a group they are either
> poor or old or both. They are people who can’t afford homes
> due to lack of wealth.
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