[WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session

Thu Dec 17 12:02:28 PST 2020

What further complicates things are all the municipal moratoriums layered
on top of the State one.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 12:00 PM Christy M <talk2much84 at msn.com> wrote:

> The last time I read the moratorium (admittedly, I have not read all of
> the extensions), the moratorium was on evictions for non-payment of rent.
> Unless I missed an amendment, landlords can still evict for bad behavior.
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> *From:* wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <
> wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> on behalf of Stephen Brandli <
> steve at brandlilaw.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2020 11:45 AM
> *To:* WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session
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> I do free consultations as a community service and typically get a steady
> stream of tenants.  Lately, I have had a steady stream of landlords.  Of
> the few who have called because they are not receiving rent, they are
> suffering economic hardship as a result of that loss in income.  More
> importantly, the rest have had real reasons to evict unrelated to money
> including harassing behavior and boyfriend/girlfriends of non-owning family
> members who have left leaving the boyfriends/girlfriends who refuse to
> leave.  This law is very broad and has many unintended consequences.  I’m
> not concerned so much about the armor, it’s the sword slashing
> indiscriminately.
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>                 Steve
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> *From:* wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <
> wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> *On Behalf Of *Andrew Hay
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:20 AM
> *To:* WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session
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> I will take the pro moratorium position.  Donning my suit of armor at the
> same time…..
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> This is a time of great economic pain due to a pandemic unequaled by any
> health crisis in 100 years.  The moratoriums are a policy protecting the
> most vulnerable people in the population as a whole – renters.  As a group
> they are either poor or old or both.  They are people who can’t afford
> homes due to lack of wealth.
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> There may be a limited number of seeming injustices to landlords caused by
> the moratorium, but the harm to vast numbers of renters who typically live
> paycheck to paycheck – or social security check to social security check –
> would be much greater.
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> This graph shows the wealth disparity between those who own homes and
> those who don’t.
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> The disparity between corporate landlords and renters would be even more
> ridiculously imbalanced.  In a time of crisis, the moratorium policy
> appropriately shifts burdens to those who can better afford it to protect
> the overall stability of the state and the nation.
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> *Andrew Hay*
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> *From:* wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com [
> mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com
> <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>] *On Behalf Of *Rani K. Sampson
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:48 AM
> *To:* WSBA Real Property Listserv
> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session
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> Washington Landlord Association says that it “has become a Plaintiff in a
> state lawsuit to stop the madness as well as supporting a Federal lawsuit
> financially with the same goal.” WLA’s Executive Director is Everett
> attorney, Rob Trickler.
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> In the meantime, proposed tenant-protections laws for next session can be
> seen here:
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> *Eviction Reform - Landlord Tenant Protections - Draft - SUMMARY*
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> *Eviction Reform - Landlord Tenant Protections - Stakeholder Draft - FULL
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> *Rani K. Sampson*
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> Overcast Law Offices | Attorney
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> 23 S Wenatchee Ave #320, Wenatchee WA 98801 | (509) 663-5588 x 6
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> *From:* wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <
> wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> *On Behalf Of *Rob Rowley
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 15, 2020 11:15 AM
> *To:* WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question
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> As a lowly dirt attorney a little bit beyond my pay grade.
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> My observation is that regulatory taking and substantive due process for
> landlords is largely dead in Washington state (unless you are a tenant)
> after the Yim I and Yim II (2019) cases.  There was an excellent article
> about those cases in the RPPT newsletter.
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> Just wait till rent control (aka ‘housing stability’) steamrolls through
> not this session but probably the following legislative session.
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> What say wiser counsel?
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> *From:* wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <
> wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> *On Behalf Of *Jennifer L White
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 15, 2020 10:53 AM
> *To:* WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question
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> Rob,
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> I’m curious if any of you LL/T gurus and/or real property litigators are
> considering filing some kind of action or class action on a constitutional
> takings basis? It seems to me that the government has turned private
> landlords into unwilling purveyors of public housing. All of these
> regulations/laws were hastily conceived and handed down by fiat. The result
> has been a tremendous and concentrated loss to private property owners.
> Perhaps it has to play out further? Have to wait to quantify the exact loss
> when the moratoriums end and you work through getting them out under all of
> these onerous “drag it out” policies benefiting only tenants? We all know
> that deadbeat tenants are never going to pay up even a tiny fraction of
> what they owe. That is but a legal illusion of justice for the property
> owners.
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> Jennifer L. White, Esq.
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> jen at appletreelaw.com
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> PO Box 11037
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> Yakima, WA 98909
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> 509.225.9813
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> *From:* wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <
> wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> *On Behalf Of *Rowley, Rob
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 15, 2020 6:49 AM
> *To:* WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question
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> As I tell my landlord clients we lawyers don't like guaranteeing anything
> but there is one thing I will guarantee is that the Governor will extend
> the moratorium sometime into 2021.
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> Also, I suspect that Pres. Biden (once in office) will also extend the
> CDC moratorium which is scheduled to lapse on December 31 which is only for
> nonpayment of rent.
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> You also have to look at your local county to see if they are part of the
> Eviction Resolution Program.  Spokane County where I am based out of is a
> part of the ERP and eventually once the moratorium is lifted we have to
> participate in the program.
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> http://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/index.cfm?fa=newsinfo.EvictionResolutionProgram
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> Also, the upcoming legislative session has a number of bills which will be
> filed which will essentially make it near impossible to evict a for rent
> (or anything) anytime soon (month to month goes away for a while). Who
> knows what actually will pass as law is a different question.  Two things
> that you never want to see being made is sausage and law.
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> Summary:
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> If I'm a betting man I would say the Legislature will pass some very
> tenant friendly provisions tied to the governor lifting the moratorium.  In
> other words, let the Legislature take the flak from those unpaid landlords.
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> Interesting times we live in.
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> Rob Rowley
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> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 9:32 PM Sangeeta Saigal <
> attorney at sangeetasaigal.com> wrote:
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> Hello Landlord Gurus,
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> I understand that there is a moratorium against evictions until December 31
> st.
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> According to how I understand the proclamation this moratorium applies to
> tenants who have lost their jobs or source of income related to Covid.
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> Question:
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> If a residential tenant has not lost their source of income ie. On govt
> assistance and they are not paying the rent does the moratorium against no
> eviction rule apply to them.
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> How best to approach such tenant who seems to be taking advantage of the
> moratorium.
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> Any advice would be really appreciated.
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> Sangeeta
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