[WSBARP] WSBARP Digest, Vol 57, Issue 5

Stephen Whitehouse swhite8893 at aol.com
Wed Jun 5 15:54:32 PDT 2019


You might also consider that as a basic premise of contract law, that where a contract specifies no time for performance, the law will imply a reasonable time period depending on the circumstances of each case. See Pepper & Tanner, Inc. v Kedo, 13 Wash.App. 433, rev. denied 86 Wash.2d 1003.
Steve

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  1. unique provision of a purchase and sale agreement.
      (Kristina Driessen)
  2. Re: unique provision of a purchase and sale agreement.
      (Craig Blackmon)
  3. Re: unique provision of a purchase and sale agreement.
      (michael at westseattleattorney.com)
  4. Re: unique provision of a purchase and sale agreement.
      (Eric Lanza)
  5. Re: unique provision of a purchase and sale agreement.
      (Gregory L. Ursich)
  6. Referral in Redmond-Bellevue area Tenants displaced by Fire
      in Redmond, asbestos (michael at westseattleattorney.com)
  7. Re: unique provision of a purchase and sale agreement. (Kate Love)


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Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2019 19:40:26 +0000
From: Kristina Driessen <kristina at rdattys.comcastbiz.net>
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Subject: [WSBARP] unique provision of a purchase and sale agreement.
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I have a purchase and sale agreement dated 1997.  The provision essentially states that the seller will have the ability to re-purchase "improvements' of the property at "some future time." The buyer was to give notice to seller if and when he ever had plans to remove the improvements/home [family home of seller]. The transaction closed.  However, the agreement stated that this provision will

would survive closing.


The property was a home and lot. The value was in the land as it is deemed commercial.  However, the buyer had the full ability to use the home/improvements until he elected to remove to build a commercial structure.


As one would guess the buyer tore the house down with out any notice to seller. This occurred in the last few month.


So we are looking at a situation 12 years post closing.  Thoughts ?..........and/or does the statute of limitations prohibit


Kristina A. Driessen

Attorney at Law

"A" Street Legal Services, Inc. P.S.

16 A Street SE,

Auburn, WA 98002

Office:          253-939-0811

Website:      astreetlegalservices. com

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Interesting!!! And you're right, quite foreseeable.

I see no SOL issue because breach just happened. That said, if the
agreement had no end date, would that violate the Rule Against
Perpetuities? I think the real issue is damages. What financial loss did
your client suffer as a result of the breach?  Absent a liquidated damages
term, I don't think they can recover, notwithstanding the obvious emotional
distress. Not on a breach of contract action, and likely not any tort claim
either.

I hope that helps. I look forward to other thoughts.

Craig
Craig Blackmon, Attorney at Law
Seattle Real Estate Lawyer <http://www.seattlepropertylawyer.com/>
92 Lenora St. (The Makers Space, a shared work environment)
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On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 12:43 PM Kristina Driessen <
kristina at rdattys.comcastbiz.net> wrote:

> I have a purchase and sale agreement dated 1997.  The provision
> essentially states that the seller will have the ability to re-purchase
> "improvements' of the property at "some future time." The buyer was to give
> notice to seller if and when he ever had plans to remove the
> improvements/home [family home of seller]. The transaction closed.
> However, the agreement stated that this provision will
>
> would survive closing.
>
>
> The property was a home and lot. The value was in the land as it is deemed
> commercial.  However, the buyer had the full ability to use the
> home/improvements until he elected to remove to build a commercial
> structure.
>
>
> As one would guess the buyer tore the house down with out any notice to
> seller. This occurred in the last few month.
>
>
> So we are looking at a situation 12 years post closing.  Thoughts
> ?..........and/or does the statute of limitations prohibit
>
>
> *Kristina A. Driessen*
>
> *Attorney at Law*
>
> *"A" Street Legal Services, Inc. P.S.*
>
> *16 A Street SE, *
>
> *Auburn, WA 98002*
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Was the ability to re-purchase improvements phrased as a right of first refusal? Or does it more resemble an option to purchase?

I think the open-endedness of the provision might cause trouble for the other side to enforce it as a valid option to purchase.

Also, all encumbrances/interests in real estate must be by deed per 64.04.010.

If they wanted to make that right enforceable, that right to re-purchase (or a limitation on Buyer?s ability to exercise rights incidental to fee ownership) should have been crafted as a deed restriction or some acknowledged document that reserved seller?s lingering interest in the property (?)

Eric J. Lanza, J.D.

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From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> On Behalf Of Craig Blackmon
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 12:59 PM
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] unique provision of a purchase and sale agreement.

Interesting!!! And you're right, quite foreseeable.

I see no SOL issue because breach just happened. That said, if the agreement had no end date, would that violate the Rule Against Perpetuities? I think the real issue is damages. What financial loss did your client suffer as a result of the breach?  Absent a liquidated damages term, I don't think they can recover, notwithstanding the obvious emotional distress. Not on a breach of contract action, and likely not any tort claim either.

I hope that helps. I look forward to other thoughts.

Craig
Craig Blackmon, Attorney at Law
Seattle Real Estate Lawyer<http://www.seattlepropertylawyer.com/>
92 Lenora St. (The Makers Space, a shared work environment)
Seattle WA 98121
Office/Cell: (206) 369-5949  Fax: (206) 770-7328
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On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 12:43 PM Kristina Driessen <kristina at rdattys.comcastbiz.net<mailto:kristina at rdattys.comcastbiz.net>> wrote:

I have a purchase and sale agreement dated 1997.  The provision essentially states that the seller will have the ability to re-purchase "improvements' of the property at "some future time." The buyer was to give notice to seller if and when he ever had plans to remove the improvements/home [family home of seller]. The transaction closed.  However, the agreement stated that this provision will

would survive closing.



The property was a home and lot. The value was in the land as it is deemed commercial.  However, the buyer had the full ability to use the home/improvements until he elected to remove to build a commercial structure.



As one would guess the buyer tore the house down with out any notice to seller. This occurred in the last few month.



So we are looking at a situation 12 years post closing.  Thoughts ?..........and/or does the statute of limitations prohibit



Kristina A. Driessen

Attorney at Law

"A" Street Legal Services, Inc. P.S.

16 A Street SE,

Auburn, WA 98002

Office:          253-939-0811

Website:      astreetlegalservices. com


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Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2019 21:03:17 +0000
From: "Gregory L. Ursich" <gursich at insleebest.com>
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I agree with Eric.  I think it would only be enforceable if it was explicitly stated in the deed as a restriction or reservation on the land.  Or, it would have to be in another recorded document between buyer and seller with conveyance language.

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From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lanza
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2019 1:27 PM
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] unique provision of a purchase and sale agreement.

Was the ability to re-purchase improvements phrased as a right of first refusal? Or does it more resemble an option to purchase?

I think the open-endedness of the provision might cause trouble for the other side to enforce it as a valid option to purchase.

Also, all encumbrances/interests in real estate must be by deed per 64.04.010.

If they wanted to make that right enforceable, that right to re-purchase (or a limitation on Buyer?s ability to exercise rights incidental to fee ownership) should have been crafted as a deed restriction or some acknowledged document that reserved seller?s lingering interest in the property (?)

Eric J. Lanza, J.D.

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From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> On Behalf Of Craig Blackmon
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 12:59 PM
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] unique provision of a purchase and sale agreement.

Interesting!!! And you're right, quite foreseeable.

I see no SOL issue because breach just happened. That said, if the agreement had no end date, would that violate the Rule Against Perpetuities? I think the real issue is damages. What financial loss did your client suffer as a result of the breach?  Absent a liquidated damages term, I don't think they can recover, notwithstanding the obvious emotional distress. Not on a breach of contract action, and likely not any tort claim either.

I hope that helps. I look forward to other thoughts.

Craig
Craig Blackmon, Attorney at Law
Seattle Real Estate Lawyer<http://www.seattlepropertylawyer.com/>
92 Lenora St. (The Makers Space, a shared work environment)
Seattle WA 98121
Office/Cell: (206) 369-5949  Fax: (206) 770-7328
@LawyerBroker<https://twitter.com/LawyerBroker>
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On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 12:43 PM Kristina Driessen <kristina at rdattys.comcastbiz.net<mailto:kristina at rdattys.comcastbiz.net>> wrote:

I have a purchase and sale agreement dated 1997.  The provision essentially states that the seller will have the ability to re-purchase "improvements' of the property at "some future time." The buyer was to give notice to seller if and when he ever had plans to remove the improvements/home [family home of seller]. The transaction closed.  However, the agreement stated that this provision will

would survive closing.



The property was a home and lot. The value was in the land as it is deemed commercial.  However, the buyer had the full ability to use the home/improvements until he elected to remove to build a commercial structure.



As one would guess the buyer tore the house down with out any notice to seller. This occurred in the last few month.



So we are looking at a situation 12 years post closing.  Thoughts ?..........and/or does the statute of limitations prohibit



Kristina A. Driessen

Attorney at Law

"A" Street Legal Services, Inc. P.S.

16 A Street SE,

Auburn, WA 98002

Office:          253-939-0811

Website:      astreetlegalservices. com


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Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2019 22:28:33 +0000
From: Kate Love <KateL at law-hawks.com>
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] unique provision of a purchase and sale
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Isn?t there is a doctrine of merger, that any guarantees made in the contract but not in the deed are extinguished when the conveyance occurs to the buyer ?

From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> On Behalf Of Gregory L. Ursich
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2019 2:03 PM
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] unique provision of a purchase and sale agreement.

I agree with Eric.  I think it would only be enforceable if it was explicitly stated in the deed as a restriction or reservation on the land.  Or, it would have to be in another recorded document between buyer and seller with conveyance language.

[ibdr2]
Gregory L. Ursich | Shareholder
Skyline Tower, Suite 1500 | 10900 NE 4th Street | Bellevue, WA 98004
P: 425.450.4258 | F: 425.635.7720
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From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> [mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lanza
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2019 1:27 PM
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] unique provision of a purchase and sale agreement.

Was the ability to re-purchase improvements phrased as a right of first refusal? Or does it more resemble an option to purchase?

I think the open-endedness of the provision might cause trouble for the other side to enforce it as a valid option to purchase.

Also, all encumbrances/interests in real estate must be by deed per 64.04.010.

If they wanted to make that right enforceable, that right to re-purchase (or a limitation on Buyer?s ability to exercise rights incidental to fee ownership) should have been crafted as a deed restriction or some acknowledged document that reserved seller?s lingering interest in the property (?)

Eric J. Lanza, J.D.

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From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> On Behalf Of Craig Blackmon
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 12:59 PM
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] unique provision of a purchase and sale agreement.

Interesting!!! And you're right, quite foreseeable.

I see no SOL issue because breach just happened. That said, if the agreement had no end date, would that violate the Rule Against Perpetuities? I think the real issue is damages. What financial loss did your client suffer as a result of the breach?  Absent a liquidated damages term, I don't think they can recover, notwithstanding the obvious emotional distress. Not on a breach of contract action, and likely not any tort claim either.

I hope that helps. I look forward to other thoughts.

Craig
Craig Blackmon, Attorney at Law
Seattle Real Estate Lawyer<http://www.seattlepropertylawyer.com/>
92 Lenora St. (The Makers Space, a shared work environment)
Seattle WA 98121
Office/Cell: (206) 369-5949  Fax: (206) 770-7328
@LawyerBroker<https://twitter.com/LawyerBroker>
How to Buy Without an Agent<http://www.seattlepropertylawyer.com/blog?category=Buy+without+an+Agent> | How to Sell FSBO<http://www.seattlepropertylawyer.com/blog?category=Sell+FSBO> | RE Glossary<http://www.seattlepropertylawyer.com/blog?category=Real+Estate+Glossary>
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On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 12:43 PM Kristina Driessen <kristina at rdattys.comcastbiz.net<mailto:kristina at rdattys.comcastbiz.net>> wrote:

I have a purchase and sale agreement dated 1997.  The provision essentially states that the seller will have the ability to re-purchase "improvements' of the property at "some future time." The buyer was to give notice to seller if and when he ever had plans to remove the improvements/home [family home of seller]. The transaction closed.  However, the agreement stated that this provision will

would survive closing.



The property was a home and lot. The value was in the land as it is deemed commercial.  However, the buyer had the full ability to use the home/improvements until he elected to remove to build a commercial structure.



As one would guess the buyer tore the house down with out any notice to seller. This occurred in the last few month.



So we are looking at a situation 12 years post closing.  Thoughts ?..........and/or does the statute of limitations prohibit



Kristina A. Driessen

Attorney at Law

"A" Street Legal Services, Inc. P.S.

16 A Street SE,

Auburn, WA 98002

Office:          253-939-0811

Website:      astreetlegalservices. com


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