[WSBARP] FW: [WSBAPT] Survey Questions

G. Geoffrey Gibbs ggibbs at andersonhunterlaw.com
Fri Feb 8 07:38:06 PST 2019


I would encourage those who would like information the subject of bifurcation to read the two articles in today's ABA newsletter.  They are more detailed and lengthy than most of the articles in the ABA weekly missive and cover a lot of the issues now facing the WSBA as they consider hot to move into the future.  GGG

http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/1-year-after-californias-state-bar-became-2-entities-observers-see-positive-changes/?utm_source=maestro&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekly_email

http://www.abajournal.com/voice/article/the-case-for-bar-associations/?utm_source=maestro&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekly_email

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Subject: [WSBARP] FW: [WSBAPT] Survey Questions

I don't understand why there is a need for a bifurcated bar. I envision that all this would do is increase redundancy and more levels of bureaucracy and of course higher fees.

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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Survey Questions

This survey also asks if the respondents support bifurcation of the bar. Upon what information would we base such an opinion?
What usefulness could such a limited survey have, for any of us?

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 4:38 PM Mike Winslow <mike at winslegal.com<mailto:mike at winslegal.com>> wrote:
Today the WSBA sent out a survey regarding a bifurcated bar, in light of recent doings by the Supremes. The issue is how to support the sections like RPPT if the bar association is bifurcated into essential and non-essential functions.

The survey asks six questions about bifurcation, including how to fund it. Question 5 asks if you would be willing to pay more dues to both the mandatory Bar and the Section if bifurcation takes place. There was only a "yes" or "no" option and this was the only question directed to supporting a dues increase to support continued RPPT Section activities. Nothing about be willing to pay more dues to support the RPPT Section, but limiting dues for mandatory WSBA. So if one answers "yes" it will appear that you support dues increases for both the voluntary Section and the mandatory bar.

Following completion of the survey, I contacted a member of the RPPT Executive Committee to express my concern about the wording of the survey. They replied that the Section had submitted a draft survey to the WSBA, but then revised and resubmitted. Instead of sending out the revised survey, which was intended to glean more detail and provide more options for answers, the WSBA sent out the original unrevised survey. So even though the survey says it is from "Executive Committee of RPPT", it was actually sent out by the WSBA in the more limited form. My take from the response was that the WSBA ignored the request of Executive Committee to use the revised survey.

Just reporting the facts. Draw your own conclusions about what is going on downtown at 1325 Fourth Ave., Suite 600, Seattle, WA 98101-2539.

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