[WSBARP] WSBARP Digest, Vol 63, Issue 1
Kristen Anderson
kristen at kandersonlegal.com
Sun Dec 1 15:21:07 PST 2019
The community's interest is often referred to as an equitable lien. I have never had any pushback from opposing counsel when arguing that the community has received "fair rental value" by paying on the mortgage on wife's separate property. The only caveat to this would be if the mortgage payments vastly exceeded the fair rental value, given the nature of the property and the rental market. Also, any equitable lien against wife's separate property would be limited to the amount of payments against the principal, so that would most often be very limited, especially since H would only be entitled to his one-half of the community share of the equitable lien.
Kristen
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1. Re: CP Interest in Originally Separate Property (Mark)
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] CP Interest in Originally Separate Property
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Paul--some input from a non-lawyer paralegal, without cites. I think this
is the analysis:
1. The character of property is determined at acquisition--here, it is W's
separate property. Thereafter, spending community funds or labor, or even
some of H's separate funds, does not convert the separate property into
part community property/part separate property. It stays W's separate
property. However, the community or H separately may have a claim against
W's separate property for the value of contributed money or labor. This is
normally called, for example, a "community lien" against W's separate
property.
2. There is another side to the analysis. The H and W community has been
living in W's separate property, and should have been paying rent to W.
What is the value of the community living there? How does that value
compare to funds or labor paid by the community on W's separate property?
Which way does the net obligation go?
Good luck!
Mark
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 8:16 AM Paul Neumiller <pneumiller at hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Listmates (sorry for the double post): I need those fancy litigator
> string of cases for the following situation: Wife ("W") acquires
> residence prior to marriage. After marriage, W's and H's paychecks are
> used to pay, fix, and improve residence and pay on a loan for the
> residence. H spends hours on house and yard. H pays for some payments out
> of his own disability checks from worker's comp. Is there any possibility
> that H has acquired a community property interest in the residence? I
> don't need to prove the actual percentage or dollar amount at this point,
> just the *possibility* of H acquiring a community property interest (or
> some kind in interest) in the residence. Thanks. (this is far-afield of
> my area and I don?t even have the proper books on where to find the answer.)
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