[WSBARP] 1031 Exchange and Like Kind Property

Koons, Warren warrenkoons at DWT.com
Mon Apr 20 19:13:30 PDT 2015


Yes - if you are buying the standing timber via a timber deed and harvest after the deed transfers title -- usually buyer has defined period of time to remove the timber. 1031 Services, Inc. in Bellevue is an excellent qualified intermediary. Warren Koons

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On Apr 20, 2015, at 6:47 PM, "Jim Doran" <jim at doranlegal.com<mailto:jim at doranlegal.com>> wrote:

In your opinion if there is a purchase agreement “before” the trees are cut, then they are real property.  Right?

James R. Doran
Attorney at Law
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Bellingham, WA 98225
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From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> [mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Tom J. Westbrook
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 5:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] 1031 Exchange and Like Kind Property

Timber (trees) is part of the real estate. When severed, timber or trees become logs. Logs are personal property. The sale of logs cannot be part of a 1031 exchange – while the sale of trees on land can be part of a 1031. You just need to get the vernacular correct.

Sincerely,

Tom

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From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> [mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Jim Doran
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 4:10 PM
To: 'WSBA Real Property Listserv'
Subject: [WSBARP] 1031 Exchange and Like Kind Property

Here is the line from the IRS information website that I think clearly denies the use of a 1031 Exchange to a the situation where the owner of real property with timber on it sells the timber and then wants to use the proceeds from the timber sale to buy more real estate.  The trees are personal property, are they not?

“Real property and personal property can both qualify as exchange properties under Section 1031; but real property can never be like-kind to personal property.”

James R. Doran
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Bellingham, WA 98225
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