<div dir="ltr"><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">I want to chime in with whispers that I have been hearing from colleagues/friends who wear the black robe. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">When the probate for profit scheme was happening, a lot of the focus was on the relationship between the attorney and the judicial officer and that because they were known to the court and very senior members of the bar, their work was accepted without much scrutiny. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">All of this is to say that I can understand the need and desire to avoid the PGAL situation - but you should prepare yourself for pushback from the Court to be protecting every beneficiary and following the rules with absolute precision. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">What was done in the past - such as the use of Decline and Consent or another county using the King County Local Rule for the procedure to access a safe deposit box - are no longer being accepted by Courts if the law does not expressly permit what you are seeking. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">I share this as the person who has gathered feedback from over 200 different intestate stories since June 11th from across the state in a multitude of jurisdictions. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Good luck!!!</div><br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p><b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Brent
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Alas, that was a long time ago and times are changing. It did cost a bit extra but, it made my client feel better. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">In my opinion, the adult child can serve as virtual rep in my opinion but I would have the TEDRA spell out that the Agreement is reached<i> in consideration of avoiding litigation</i> under Washington's CIR laws which potentially would result in nothing to otherse.</div><br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="color:rgb(56,118,29);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large;background-color:transparent">Thank you.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(56,118,29);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">Diane Kiepe, J.D., LL.M. Taxation</span></div><div><font color="#38761d" face="georgia, serif" size="4">Kiepe Estate and Probate, PLLC<br></font><div><font size="4" face="georgia, serif" color="#38761d"><a href="mailto:diane@kiepelaw.com" target="_blank">diane@kiepelaw.com</a></font></div><div><font size="4" face="georgia, serif" color="#38761d"><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/200+N.+Mullan+Rd.,+Suite+203+Spokane+Valley,+WA%C2%A0+99206?entry=gmail&source=g">200 N. 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Decedent's mother and elder child, who is of the age of majority, is in agreement that everything should be treated as community property of the surviving parent, but of course the 11 year old is incompent to sign a TEDRA to that effect. RCW 11.96A.120(4) is unambiguous that my client cannot act as virtual representative of the minor because of the inherent conflict of interest, but I read section (5) as potentially allowing the elder sibling to stand as virtual representative (each child's interest is substantially identical with regard to the question of whether the surviving parent has superior claim to intestate assets, and there is no conflict of interest as between them). Is my read correct? Is there any alternative approach you think I should consider?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I'd love to avoid the cumbersome process of appointing a GAL and then going through the process of arguing against the child having a beneficial claim on the deceased parent's estate if at all possible, of course.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Thank you!</div><br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">Best,</div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">David J. 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