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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Quick question about CIR Laws, the surviving CIR partner would normally have a ½ interest in the property acquired during the CIR relationship as if it were community property, but not a community property interest in the whole; correct? Then wouldn’t the children have the interest in the other ½ portion of that acquired property?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I can see the adult child waiving the interest in favor of his mother, but I do not see how the 11 year old could or that a PGAL would (or should).</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Or am I getting this wrong?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#4c76a2">Mark C. 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Thank you.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:navy"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Diane Kiepe<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 13, 2026 10:18 AM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Intestacy, Virtual Representation, and Committed Intimate Relationship</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">I have drafted a stipulated motion and order where an attorney served as the GAL for a minor and the judge had no problem signing off on it without requiring all formal steps. Alas, that was a long time ago and times are changing. It did cost a bit extra but, it made my client feel better. </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">In my opinion, the adult child can serve as virtual rep in my opinion but I would have the TEDRA spell out that the Agreement is reached<i> in consideration of avoiding litigation</i> under Washington's CIR laws which potentially would result in nothing to otherse.</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all"></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#38761d">Thank you.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#38761d">Diane Kiepe, J.D., LL.M. Taxation</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#38761d">Kiepe Estate and Probate, PLLC</span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#38761d"><a href="mailto:diane@kiepelaw.com" target="_blank">diane@kiepelaw.com</a></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#38761d">200 N. Mullan Rd., Suite 203</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#38761d">Spokane Valley, WA 99206</span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#38761d">509-808-2087</span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:dimgray">Confidentiality Notice: This page and any accompanying documents contain information that is confidential, privileged, or exempt from disclosure under applicable law and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee. This information is private and protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information in any manner is strictly prohibited.</span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Nov 12, 2026 at 4:13<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>PM David Faber <<a href="mailto:david@faberfeinson.com">david@faberfeinson.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">List,</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>Client's long-term (but unmarried) partner of more than 20 years died intestate with about $300k in assets and two children, one of whom is a minor (11 years old). Decedent's mother and elder child, who is of the age of majority, is in agreement that everything should be treated as community property of the surviving parent, but of course the 11 year old is incompent to sign a TEDRA to that effect. RCW 11.96A.120(4) is unambiguous that my client cannot act as virtual representative of the minor because of the inherent conflict of interest, but I read section (5) as potentially allowing the elder sibling to stand as virtual representative (each child's interest is substantially identical with regard to the question of whether the surviving parent has superior claim to intestate assets, and there is no conflict of interest as between them). Is my read correct? Is there any alternative approach you think I should consider?</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I'd love to avoid the cumbersome process of appointing a GAL and then going through the process of arguing against the child having a beneficial claim on the deceased parent's estate if at all possible, of course.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thank you!</p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all"></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Best,</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">David J. 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