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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree that if there is not a fully notarized self-proving affidavit that including lines for the witnesses names and addresses is important as my experience over the years with other states has led me to believe that many states are not
as “flexible” or “modern” or “simple” as Washington in accepting wills that lack a full self-proving affidavit. There are even a couple (Maryland was the one I heard of most recently) where a post-death affidavit was required of each of the witnesses to probate
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have done it both ways over the years, but with enough staff on hand to notarize the witness affidavits we tend to include these, and not just witness declarations.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I include space for the witness’ printed names and addresses, just in case. I hate seeing a will with only illegible witness signatures and nothing more.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Makes sense. Thanks for the input. I have always been a little sketched out by signature only wills without being able to verify that the witnesses ever really existed..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That's what I do Sara.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Oct 2, 2026 at 10:43<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>AM Sara Longley <<a href="mailto:sara.longley@ivylawpllc.com">sara.longley@ivylawpllc.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">As a solo attorney, it is far easier to bring in one person to witness than two. I usually act as the second witness for the Will, and if the client is doing Powers of Attorney
I can be the notary for those documents. The alternative is asking the client to bring disinterested witnesses, which usually involves a scheduling nightmare and quite a bit of un-billable time.
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</span><a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <</span><a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lewis, Amy C.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 2, 2026 10:09 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <</span><a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Notarized Will required to admit to probate vs valid > Will</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">For us the downside is tying up the time of three people in the office for every Will signing. When we have multiple attorneys with overlapping Will signing appointments, we don’t
have enough staff to cover two witnesses and the notary.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Amy Lewis, Attorney<br>
Pronouns she/her/hers<br>
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phone </span><a href="tel:(253)%20572-4500" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">253.572.4500</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> | fax
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</span><a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <</span><a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark McClure<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 2, 2026 10:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <</span><a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Notarized Will required to admit to probate vs valid > Will</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Why don’t you notarize? What is the downside?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#4C76A2">Mark C. McClure</span></b><b><span style="font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#4C76A2"> </span></b><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#4C76A2">|
</span></b><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#4C76A2">Managing Attorney <br>
</span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:navy">Law Office of Mark McClure, PS<b> <br>
</b><i>"Why Retire With Debt?"<br>
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</span><a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <</span><a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Nelsen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 2, 2026 9:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <</span><a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Notarized Will required to admit to probate vs valid > Will</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">No crushing required! Looks good to me. So now we’ll both be crushed if someone finds a flaw.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Eric<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Eric C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Sayre Law Offices, PLLC<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eva Luchini<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 2, 2026 9:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Notarized Will required to admit to probate vs valid > Will</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#06400C">I do not notarize my Wills. I do a declaration of witnesses of which I am one and my assistant is the other and it should be </span><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:black">SELF
PROVING PURSUANT TO RCW 5.50.030, 11.20.020</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#06400C">Here’s what it looks like, below.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:black">DECLARATION OF WITNESSES</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:black">(SELF PROVING PURSUANT TO RCW 5.50.030, 11.20.020)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:black">Each of the undersigned declares that, on the date written below and, in our presence, [CLIENT] declared this document to be their Will and signed it as the Testator. At the Testator’s
request and in the presence of the Testator and each other, we are signing as attesting witnesses. The Testator appears to be over 18 years old, of sound and disposing mind and memory, competent in every respect to make a Will, and not under any restraint,
duress, or undue influence. Each of us is over 18 years old and competent to be an attesting witness. This declaration is made at the request of [CLIENT] for the purpose of proving the foregoing Will.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:black">Each of us further declares under penalty of perjury under the laws of the State of Washington that the foregoing declaration is true and correct.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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