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Apologies for the iPhone tapping name misspell on my notary signature screed. You didn't know it, but you
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Happy weekend. Best, Josh </div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 19 June 2026 08:17:54<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] If a public notary prints their name, but does not sign their name, is that notary certification valid?</font>
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I agree with you about the common law signature, but I'm fairly certain if you get into the weeds of the notary public statutes and regulations and even the forms, it is a requirement (in each of Idaho and Washington) that a notary use the signature that they
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For example, my application recites my full legal name as Joshua David McKarcher for purposes of first identifying me as a human being. </div>
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But then my notary NAME and SIGNATURE is only Joshua McKarcher. I must order my stamp to read THAT name, and I have to provide an exemplar of my notary signature in a box.</div>
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It is the case actually that if I suddenly began signing my name, <i>Joshua David McKarcher</i>, those notarial acts would become notorious (by which I mean naughty even if I'm behaving loosely with the meanings of words)!!! </div>
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The <i>Joshua David McKarcher </i>signatures would be noncompliant under the rules and regulations because that's not what is on file with the state or represented on my stamp.</div>
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(Of course the stamp name is irrelevant for signatures that look like line drawings of a person who can't be bothered. Then only the line drawing must match the signature on file with the state. )</div>
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There are saving regulations that say things like the instrument is not automatically invalid (void) <u>only for</u> these technical reasons. But that does not mean the act is not void<u>able</u> and that someone could not challenge the act as invalid because
it is noncompliant if they cared enough to obtain a court order to that effect.</div>
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Please forgive me for this email. Happy Friday! Best, Josh</div>
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o: </span><span style="color:currentcolor">(509) 758-3345</span><span style="color:black"><br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 18 June 2026 09:11:06<br>
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<p class="x_x_MsoNormal">Under common law a “signature” can be any kind of mark. It’s even allowable, for example, to sign “John Smith” as my idiosyncratic way of signing “Eric Nelsen.” The purpose of a signature is both instrumental (part of the act of notarizing)
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<p class="x_x_MsoNormal">Marks that don’t bear some relationship to what people would expect to see as a signature, impairs the evidentiary function. Which is my longwinded and pompous way of agreeing with Melody—the problem isn’t that the printed signature
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrekita Silva<br>
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<p class="x_x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">A client gave me a revocation to record. But, his name looks 100% printed. Some people tell me that my signature looks like I've printed, but it really is my cursive signature.
I could not find a phone number for the notary to ask him if that is his signature or if he actually only printed his name and forgot to provide his signature. I've emailed to my client to ask for this guy's phone number. I'm going to try to check with this
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<p class="x_x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">But, what do you all think? Will this revocation need to be re-executed?<br>
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Andrekita Silva<br>
Law Office of F. Andrekita Silva<br>
1325 Fourth Avenue, Suite 940<br>
Seattle, Washington 98101-2509<br>
206-224-8288<br>
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