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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Diane! Is there a WAC or RCW I should look at? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Eric<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Eric C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Diane Kiepe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 15, 2026 5:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] DSHS Medicaid "lien" vs creditor claim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">This is my understanding, and experience, but I'll look forward to other comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">A lien covers the amount of Medicaid services provided and attaches to the recipient's real estate. I have personally never seen a lien filed on any other property. Also, it can only attach to the recipient's
interest (so for a spouse that is often 50%). These liens must be filed before death; otherwise, they become a creditor's claim. I have had 2 or 3 dismissed because they did not file timely.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#38761D">Kiepe Estate and Probate, PLLC</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Jun 15, 2026 at 5:05<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>PM Eric Nelsen <<a href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<u>all</u> property of the Estate or just real estate? And, does it survive the 2-year bar on creditor claims?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I used to understand, I thought, that DSHS’s Medicaid recovery efforts are subject to the 2-year bar. But the lien language is giving me pause.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Eric<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Eric C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Sayre Law Offices, PLLC<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">1417 31st Ave South<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Seattle WA 98144-3909<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">206-625-0092<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com" target="_blank">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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