<div dir="ltr">Ah, I understand. I thought you meant that to perfect title under a CPA, the form 17 would be required. But you meant: if the spouse takes title under a CPA, they have to give a form 17 when they sell to a third party. Whereas they wouldn't if they were administering a probate. Thank you for clarifying. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 28, 2026 at 2:12 PM Nick Pleasants <<a href="mailto:npleasants@ohswlaw.com">npleasants@ohswlaw.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg7164750970595395887">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Laura,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I am not referring to the inter-family transfer being subject to Form 17. I am referring to when the property is sold to a third party. In a probate, the Seller (Personal Representative) is not obligated to give a Form 17. But if bypassing
probate, the Seller – e.g. Surviving Spouse taking title under a community property agreement, or Child inheriting under a TODD/LOPA – they would have to give Form 17. The issue being that the method of inheritance transfer matters for Form 17.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best, <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Nick<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Laura Latta<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 28, 2026 1:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Sale of Home after Trustor's Death vs. Probate Sale<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Nick, <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I read 64.06.010(2) to exempt a transfer from one spouse to another under a CPA from theform 17 requirement. Am I missing something? This would often catch a TODD as well given that most cases where these have come up (in my practice)
involve a child of the grantor. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Warmly,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Laura <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Apr 28, 2026 at 9:32<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span>AM Nick Pleasants <<a href="mailto:npleasants@ohswlaw.com" target="_blank">npleasants@ohswlaw.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">The Form 17 exemption is only for Personal Representatives by statute. RCW<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__app.leg.wa.gov_rcw_default.aspx-3Fcite-3D64.06.010&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-GmOVePHrMxpHDsqhlpu0IV7jy1tkCWDKAKJmc3TDcg&m=dWzE39akV1OqY84pBaKGbiJaZ1qASiVlM1ovMRJEMan1MmckoMAMgLb0sf9Laq8Y&s=5uA-5ZUjTb7pf8oas81pEl8fruM2i6fu19FNi3YGEAc&e=" title="https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=64.06.010" target="_blank"> 64.06.010</a>(6).
There are many inheritance sales that are subject to Form 17 disclosure - e.g. TODD, LOPA, CPA, etc. I don't necessarily see it as a bad thing to do a Form 17 and disclose any known defects with the property.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">If you are selling this on the open market, it should be fairly similar to any fiduciary sale. But consider whether you need to give notice to the beneficiaries under RCW
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__app.leg.wa.gov_rcw_default.aspx-3Fcite-3D11.100.140&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-GmOVePHrMxpHDsqhlpu0IV7jy1tkCWDKAKJmc3TDcg&m=dWzE39akV1OqY84pBaKGbiJaZ1qASiVlM1ovMRJEMan1MmckoMAMgLb0sf9Laq8Y&s=kQE3EjQ6w-_vtJXRJpCs7qMz2FOa0hQODV9POi6T_9s&e=" title="https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=11.100.140" target="_blank">
11.100.140</a> or obtain a waiver. If Title/Escrow is on their game, they will ask for the signed waivers. Even if they don't, always good to paper the file.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Nick<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I have a situation where a home was actually transferred into the family RLT prior to death (miracles do happen). What I do not know as this is my first Trustee sale by a successor Trustee is
whether they are exempt from Form 17 disclosures in the same way that an Executor is exempt?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Appreciate any feedback on this situation. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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