<div dir="ltr"><div>I'm so confused. RCW 11.125.050 says that "<span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">A power of attorney shall be considered signed in
accordance with this section if, in the case of a principal who is physically
unable to sign his or her name, the principal makes a mark in accordance with
RCW </span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:115%;font-family:times new roman,serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">11.12.030". </span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:115%;font-family:times new roman,serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:115%;font-family:times new roman,serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">RCW 11.12.030 says "</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"></span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">That such signing and statement shall not be required
if the testator shall evidence the approval of the signature so made at his or
her request by making his or her mark on the will.</span>"</div><div><br></div><div>So is making a mark sufficient??</div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Ann Manley, Esq.</span></div><div><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"></span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">The Manley Law Firm, P.S., Inc.</span></div><div><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">PO Box 16324</span><br><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"></span></div><div><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"></span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Seattle, WA 98116</span></div><div><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"></span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><a value="+12062923064">(206)292-3064</a> / <a value="+12062923914">(206)292-3914</a> fax</span></div><div><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><a href="http://www.manleyfirm.com" target="_blank">www.manleyfirm.com</a></span></div><p><b style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><i><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The Manley Law Firm practice areas include Bankruptcy*, Estate Planning, Auto Accidents, Civil Litigation, Construction, Commercial and Contract Law, Personal injury, Small Business, Unemployment Claims, Wage Loss and Compensation claims</span></i></b><br></p><p><i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:8pt">* The Manley Law Firm is a Debt Relief Agency. We help people file for bankruptcy relief under the Bankruptcy Code.</span></i><i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"></span></i></p><p><b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">This email and any files transmitted with it are privileged, confidential, and intended solely to whom they are addressed. Any unauthorized use, copying, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender.</span></b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"></span></p></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 14, 2026 at 10:34 AM Melody Tucker Law <<a href="mailto:melodytuckerlaw@hotmail.com">melodytuckerlaw@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Yes. Power of Attorney for Financial Matters, Power of Attorney for Health Care (I do not combine these as some people do. They are two separate documents), and all Wills, of course.
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<div>Melody are you getting powers of attorney witnessed too?</div>
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<blockquote type="cite">On Feb 14, 2026, at 9:25 AM, Brent Williams-Ruth <<a href="mailto:brent@williams-ruthlaw.com" target="_blank">brent@williams-ruthlaw.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Great question! A mark can count - but if your situation makes it where they cannot even make a mark you need to make sure the notarization is done pursuant to RCW 64.08.100. </div>
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<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">It is really very easy but in case you have someone that ever goes to challenge (such as a mean old bank or investment company) you will want to make sure it is 100% by the book!</div>
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<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">For reference, here is what the statute says: </div>
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<h3 style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-bottom:10px;margin-top:5px">Acknowledgments by persons unable to sign name.</h3>
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<div style="box-sizing:border-box;text-indent:0.5in">Any person who is otherwise competent but is physically unable to sign his or her name or make a mark may make an acknowledgment authorized under this chapter by orally directing the notary public or other
authorized officer taking the acknowledgment to sign the person's name on his or her behalf. In taking an acknowledgment under this section, the notary public or other authorized officer shall, in addition to stating his or her name and place of residence,
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<div>Client is able to make a mark on documents, but it is not a legible signature. Does anything special need to be done to notarize this?
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