<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Sara,<div><br></div><div>How would your court run a background check without the proposed administrator’s birthdate? </div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Oct 8, 2025, at 9:42 AM, Sara Longley <slongley@pnwtaxlaw.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="elementToProof" style="font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;">A note of sincere thanks to the folks who reached out to me yesterday, and a helpful hint for any other first-time Pierce County probate filers out there:</div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><br></div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><i>Pierce County requires that the Petition for Probate include the date of birth of the person seeking appointment as Personal Representative. If you do not include it, your petition will be rejected.</i></div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><br></div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;">This rule appears nowhere in the local rules, court website, or anywhere else that I could find. You just have to know. </div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><br></div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Best,</div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Sara</div><div class="elementToProof" id="Signature" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div class="elementToProof" style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span id="cid:83f4b34d-3e8d-4303-a41f-9db7354436cd"><Outlook-cid_image0.png></span></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-family: "Segoe UI", sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(59, 56, 56);">Sara D. Longley, Attorney</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-family: "Segoe UI", sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(59, 56, 56);">(Main) 360.378.4450 ext. 107</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-family: "Segoe UI", sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(59, 56, 56);">(Direct) 360.468.7230</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-family: "Segoe UI", sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(5, 99, 193);"><u><a data-linkindex="0" href="mailto:Slongley@pnwtaxlaw.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); margin: 0px;">Slongley@pnwtaxlaw.com</a></u></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-family: "Segoe UI", sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(5, 99, 193);"><u><a data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="http://www.pnwtaxlaw.com/" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); margin: 0px;">www.pnwtaxlaw.com</a></u></span></div><p class="elementToProof" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-family: "Segoe UI", sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(59, 56, 56);"> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-family: "Segoe UI", sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><b>This email and any attachments may contain confidential and/or attorney-client privileged information. 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(I've been practicing in King for over 15 years.)</div><div class="x_elementToProof" style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div class="x_elementToProof" style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">I filed what I thought was a completely adequate Petition, Oath, and supporting declarations from all the other beneficiaries, but this morning I received a denial.</div><div class="x_elementToProof" style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div class="x_elementToProof" style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">If there is someone who regularly practices there who could spare a few minutes to answer my newbie questions I would be incredibly grateful.</div><div class="x_elementToProof" style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div class="x_elementToProof" style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Thanks in advance,</div><div class="x_elementToProof" style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Sara</div><div class="x_elementToProof" id="x_Signature"><div class="x_elementToProof" style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span id="cid:fc6426e7-3b6c-410a-bd51-7631136a9317"><Outlook-cid_image0.png></span></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-family: "Segoe UI", sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(59, 56, 56);">Sara D. 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