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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">My concern is whether effectuating the TODD by recording the death certificate would result in claims, but if we do not open a probate, I guess it will be up to the creditors
to decide if they wish to do so. As I mentioned, there are some credit cards with outstanding balances. The highest balance is approximately $15,000. I’m guessing that the bank will not open a probate to go after that amount, so we just wait out the two
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none"> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Nelsen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 18, 2025 12:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] TODD Subject to Creditors?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Yes. <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__app.leg.wa.gov_RCW_default.aspx-3Fcite-3D64.80-26full-3Dtrue-2364.80.120&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=H6n6r-DFlIz7r5VdHBmWpbj50tmhBsMLlFcQIU1RVMM&m=ToPhm_lRU3xzp8N0HcenjYCWVWANI_vnYR9SNcOf3W_23d3zY1s68i2hvVcJYWYp&s=NxOFoKARsD7e60mAKSIc1cPmL9nfzKhmR3vdRZKTP_8&e=">
RCW 64.80.120</a>:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">A beneficiary of a transfer on death deed is liable for an allowed claim against the transferor's probate estate and statutory allowances to a surviving spouse and children to the
extent provided in RCW <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__app.leg.wa.gov_RCW_default.aspx-3Fcite-3D11.18.200&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=H6n6r-DFlIz7r5VdHBmWpbj50tmhBsMLlFcQIU1RVMM&m=ToPhm_lRU3xzp8N0HcenjYCWVWANI_vnYR9SNcOf3W_23d3zY1s68i2hvVcJYWYp&s=W3ab88RaT5j34tqHOBGUjfJks9rEelSukDUS0crJnks&e="><b>11.18.200</b></a>, <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__app.leg.wa.gov_RCW_default.aspx-3Fcite-3D11.42.085&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=H6n6r-DFlIz7r5VdHBmWpbj50tmhBsMLlFcQIU1RVMM&m=ToPhm_lRU3xzp8N0HcenjYCWVWANI_vnYR9SNcOf3W_23d3zY1s68i2hvVcJYWYp&s=h0XjX1rlyL6q_W9HHzlD4jPJrykBmH8H7keOsDvxJvw&e="><b>11.42.085</b></a>,
and chapter <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__app.leg.wa.gov_RCW_default.aspx-3Fcite-3D11.54&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=H6n6r-DFlIz7r5VdHBmWpbj50tmhBsMLlFcQIU1RVMM&m=ToPhm_lRU3xzp8N0HcenjYCWVWANI_vnYR9SNcOf3W_23d3zY1s68i2hvVcJYWYp&s=bPs0WX5a0T1ALw1KbBqCHnCENWch_karAtDfwUr-nuk&e="><b>11.54</b></a> RCW.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Of course, the creditors have the same problem they always do in this circumstance. If no probate is opened, they have no place to file a creditor claim. If two years goes by, their claims are extinguished.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:none">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:none">Eric<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:none">Eric C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:none">Sayre Law Offices, PLLC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:none"><a href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>James Dolan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 18, 2025 10:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] TODD Subject to Creditors?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">I think I know the answer to this but I am hoping someone smarter than me will offer a better answer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">At death, decedent had a small bank account in his name, owned a 2013 GMC SUV worth approximately $8,000, and a home. He had 6 credit cards with a total of
approximately $40,000 in debt. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">His home has TODD to significant other. We do not plan to do a probate. I am not worried about the small bank account or the vehicle.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">Question, is the home conveyed to significant other via TODD subject to claims from creditors?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">Jim Dolan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">Jones Butler Dolan, PS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0E2841">P.O. Box 458<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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