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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">For a very long time, I have always redacted the decedent’s Social Security number and mother’s maiden name.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Why invite identity theft?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:15.0pt;page-break-after:avoid;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:"Bradley Hand ITC";letter-spacing:-.1pt">CARL LLOYD GAY</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:15.0pt;page-break-after:avoid;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:"Palace Script MT";letter-spacing:-.1pt"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bradley Hand ITC";color:#c00000;background:white"> Non nobis solum nati sumus</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bradley Hand ITC";color:#c00000"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black;background:white"> </span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black;background:white">“Not unto ourselves alone are we born” </span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;background:white"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;letter-spacing:-.1pt"> </span><span style="font-size:5.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;letter-spacing:-.1pt">~</span><span style="font-size:5.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black;background:white">the motto of Willamette University~</span><span style="font-size:5.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:15.0pt;page-break-after:avoid;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:"Palace Script MT";letter-spacing:-.1pt"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Palace Script MT""> </span></i><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Palace Script MT"">Law Offices</span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Californian FB",serif"> </span><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB",serif">G</span><span style="font-family:"Californian FB",serif">REENAWAY </span><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Harrington">& </span><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB",serif">G</span><span style="font-family:"Californian FB",serif">AY </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Californian FB",serif"> </span><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bell MT",serif">Attorneys and Counselors at Law </span></i><span style="font-family:"Californian FB",serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Californian FB",serif"> </span><span style="font-size:6.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB",serif">(</span><b><span style="font-size:6.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Established 1985)</span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Californian FB",serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Californian FB",serif">734 East First Street Suite A</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Californian FB",serif">Port Angeles, Washington 98362</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Californian FB",serif">Email <a href="mailto:carl@greenawaylawfirm.com">carl@greenawaylawfirm.com</a></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Californian FB",serif">Telephone (360) 452-3323</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Californian FB",serif">Facsimile (360) 452-3724 </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">THIS EMAIL TRANSMISSION IS INTENDED FOR THE EXCLUSIVE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHOM IT IS ADDRESSED, AND MAY CONTAIN PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION THAT IS COVERED BY THE ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS PRIVACY ACT (18 USC §§ 2510-2521). 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THANK YOU </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brent Williams-Ruth<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 17, 2025 4:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:WSBAPT@lists.wsbarppt.com">WSBAPT@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Denied Order Opening Probate because of Non-Redacted SSN</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I just had Judge Scott in King County deny an order opening probate because I didn't comply with GR 31 and because I did not redact the SSN from the death certificate. </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">First off - question - does anyone redact the SSN before presenting to open for probate? In the 10 years I have been doing this now, I have never redacted the SSN. Before COVID, I opened cases in person and would just hand up a death certificate. Then came covid and I would upload BUT NOT FILE; then came the new KC Script portal and they have the "additional document" tab where again, I would upload but not file. </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">GR 31(e)(1) states that you have to redact any personally identifiable information from documents being FILED with the Court. </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Just curious what others do and if you have encountered this before. </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Brent</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all"></p></div><div><div><div><div><p><b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Brent Williams-Ruth</span></b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> (pronouns: he/him)<br><i>Attorney-At-Law</i></span></p><p><b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Law Offices of Brent Williams-Ruth, </span></b><b><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">a division of BWR Consulting, PLLC</span></b></p><p><b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Physical Address: 500 S 336th Street, Suite 214; Federal Way, WA 98003</span></b></p><p><b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:red">Mailing Address:</span></b><b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> PO BOX 3319; Federal Way, WA 98063 </span></b></p><p><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Office/Scheduling Phone:<span style="color:#004080"> </span><span style="color:red">(253) 285-7751</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:red">For All Meetings & Scheduling: <a href="mailto:info@williams-ruthlaw.com" target="_blank">info@williams-ruthlaw.com</a></span></p><p><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><a href="mailto:Brent@Williams-RuthLaw.com" target="_blank">e-mail</a> / <a href="http://www.williams-ruthlaw.com/" target="_blank">website</a> /</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/bwrlaw" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">facebook</span></a></span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> / </span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>