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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you, Andrekita. In your first example (<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">CR5(b)(2)(A)</span>), what do you “get” if the 2nd is
<b><u>Wednesday</u></b>, however, instead of Tuesday? That’s my hypo. If you mail on Wed. 2nd, is service not “complete” until Saturday-forwarded-to-Monday the 7th and then it is only 8 days until the following Tuesday the 15th?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Whereas under the <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
CR6(a) “method” it seems much simpler: 10+3=13 and Wednesday the 2nd is 13 days before Tuesday the 15th.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I’ve either found some black hole into which math goes to die, OR one of these does not mean what I “think” it means . . . . maybe?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I have this “feeling” it has to do with CR5(b)(2)(A) and its weird “service is complete” mechanic not applying for probate notices, but I cannot put my finger on WHY I have this
feeling.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Andrekita Silva <ak@seattle-silvalaw.com>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 9, 2025 7:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Joshua McKarcher <josh@mckarcherlaw.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] probate notice via mail - do CR5 and CR6 "work" differently from each other?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Law Office of F. Andrekita Silva<br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">September 9, 2025</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Joshua,</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Maybe I am the one missing something. But, if you mailed on 9/2, then service by mail was complete on Friday, September 5.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">So, now 10 days notice is required. So, CR6 says you can't count the day of the act from which time begins to run.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">So, start counting on Saturday, 9/6. The 10th day is Monday, September 15. So, that is 10 days notice.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">That's how I count it anyway.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">CR6:</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">In computing any period of time prescribed or allowed by these rules,</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">by the local rules of any superior court, by order of court, or by any applicable statute, the day of</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">the act, event, or default from which the designated period of time begins to run shall not be</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">included. The last day of the period so computed shall be included, unless it is a Saturday, a</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Sunday or a legal holiday, in which event the period runs until the end of the next day which is</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">neither a Saturday, a Sunday nor a legal holiday. Legal holidays are prescribed in RCW 1.16.050.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">When the period of time prescribed or allowed is less than 7 days, intermediate Saturdays,</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Sundays and legal holidays shall be excluded in the computation.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Andrekita Silva</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Law Office of F. Andrekita Silva</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">1325 Fourth Avenue, Suite 940</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Seattle, Washington 98101-2509</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">206-224-8288</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:ak@seattle-silvalaw.com">ak@seattle-silvalaw.com</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">On 2025/09/09 16:22, Joshua McKarcher wrote:</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">When a probate hearing (such as one for nonintervention powers)</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">requires 10-day notice…
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">CR6(a) states the usual rule that it counts weekends and holidays</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">unless the period ends on one; and (e) states the "mail rule" that 3</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">days are added to the period. This suggests the notice period for a</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">probate pleading is 13 days.
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">But CR5(b)(2)(A) says service by mail is complete 3 days after placed</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">in the mail except when that lands on a weekend or holiday.
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Assume a hearing is on Tuesday the 15th of a month.
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Service mailed out on Wednesday the 2nd is 13 days ahead, which is 10</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">+ 3 days, as under CR6.
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">But service mailed out on Wednesday the 2nd is (maybe?) not "complete"</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">under CR5(b)(2)(A) until Monday the 7th (because 3 days after</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Wednesday is Saturday). And Monday the 7th is only 8 days before</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Tuesday the 15th. Is this 2 days shy of the required notice period?
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I do not litigate enough. What am I missing here? Which method is</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">correct in probate land where a hearing on nonintervention powers must</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">be noticed up 10 days before the hearing and the hearing is on a</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Tuesday? </span>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Help! Thanks!
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Joshua D. McKarcher
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">McKarcher Law PLLC
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