<div dir="ltr"><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">I have also battled this before - and even attempted (on my own before I was heavily involved in the Section and the WSBA) to get the law changed to add TEETH.....only to be stopped short by Frank Chopp and Jamie Pedersen. That said - make sure you are getting the order from the statute which I just reviewed DOES NOT SAY a Judge, but an order from the Court. </span><br clear="all"></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><a href="https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.120.070">https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.120.070</a></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Please also, if you feel so inclined, write your representatives and state senator and ask them to put TEETH into this act. It says they SHALL comply, but there is no penalty for failing to comply with this act. </span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">I did this dance with Apple and it took NINE MONTHS to get access. </span></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p><b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Brent
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Argh. Bureaucrats. That’s as stupid as the “sovereign citizen” movement where they claim a court doesn’t have proper jurisdiction over them because there is no fringe on the flag in the corner of the courtroom.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">I’d refer them to RCW 2.24.050 and note that the order is a valid order of the superior court as of 10 days after entry. And ask for a review by a supervisor, and if they still persist, tell them if they don’t
comply with a valid superior court order and force you to get a second order, you’ll ask for attorney fees and costs as a sanction for a frivolous objection.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Somebody a while back did a deep dive on the statutory and (state) constitutional basis for commissioners’ authority. Does anyone remember that article?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Sincerely,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Eric<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Eric C. Nelsen<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Google rejecting Order because it is signed by a Commissioner and not a Judge<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have a probate where we need access to a gmail account. We have an order signed by the court with all the requirements Google sent, but Google is rejecting it since it is signed by a Commissioner and not a "Judge". In King County, almost
all of our orders in probates are signed by Commissioners. Is anyone aware of a way I can get a Judge to sign the order absent going the TEDRA route and I guess pursuing Google in that manner? It seems like a huge waste of resources. <u></u><u></u></p>
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