<div dir="ltr"><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">As someone who does hospital visits and those who are truly near the end of life....after conducting my own competency analysis.....I frequently will utilize the permissions under RCW 42.45.070 to have someone else sign, but I make sure to follow the statute by including the language requested. I add, however, my own additional requirement that the person signing follow the same rules as to who can be a witness, specifically no one that is in the Will itself....simply because, as Eric said - not a good look. </div><br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p><b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Brent
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Not a good look, is it? But it might be valid nevertheless, if the Agent signed for Testatrix at Testatrix’s direction, in the presence of two witnesses, and Testatrix asked the witnesses to
attest to the proxy signature. See RCW 11.12.020:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">every will shall be in writing signed by the testator
<span style="background:yellow">or by some other person under the testator's direction in the testator's presence</span> or electronic presence,
<span style="background:yellow">and shall be attested by two or more competent witnesses</span>, by subscribing their names to the will, or by signing an affidavit that complies with RCW <a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.20.020" target="_blank"><b>11.20.020</b></a>(2),
<span style="background:yellow">while in the presence or electronic presence of the testator and at the testator's direction or request</span>.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">The key testimony is by the witnesses, rather than the Agent. The Agent’s DPA is meaningless in this context, of course; it is the ritual of signing before witnesses that determines whether the
will is valid.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Sincerely,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Eric<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Eric C. Nelsen<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Sayre Law Offices, PLLC<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">1417 31st Ave South<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Seattle WA 98144-3909<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">206-625-0092<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(70,120,134)">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:Jeff@bellanddavispllc.com" target="_blank">Jeff@bellanddavispllc.com</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 20, 2025 12:49 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv' <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Will Signed by Agent<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">First time to see this. Testatrix dies one day after her Agent, under a durable power of attorney, signs her Will as her Agent. Agent also gets everything. Don’t think I would even try presenting it to the Court for fear of the laughter.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jeff Davis<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">W. Jeff Davis<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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