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<div dir="auto">I believe what you should be looking for is law on whether delivery of the deed occurred. If delivery occurred, then the grantee can record. </div>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">One situation where this might arise is where the transaction involves a Real Estate Contract. You generally want a satisfaction deed held by someone in case the Seller
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">This is a fascinating question. I do not know the answer. One possible answer is that the person recording the deed is acting on behalf of the signer. Or acting based
on instructions provided before death. But both of those answers raise lots of their own questions.</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">All of this reminds us why we should not hold deeds on behalf of our clients, to be recorded after death. I have seen situations where the client signed a deed, gave
it to his attorney to be recorded after death, then years later the client signed and recorded a different deed after forgetting he had signed the earlier deed and left instructions that it should be recorded after death. Then the client died and the attorney
does not knows what to do next. One family member insists that the deed be recorded. Another family member insists that it not be recorded. What a mess. Yes, the attorney could go into court and ask for instructions, but if the attorney does not know what
to do, how is the court going to know what to do? I would rather have a root canal. I am sure that others can imagine other scenarios equally messy. An intervening divorce, for example. Let’s not get into such messes. Don’t accept a signed deed to be
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:#002060">Here are my initial observations:</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:#002060">I reposted your question on the WSBA Real Property Listserv – I will let you know what I hear from them.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Good Morning,</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">I am looking for some caselaw or authority regarding who can record a Quit Claim Deed after death of the Grantor.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Grantor died in an accident. Several days later, an attorney recorded a Quit Claim Deed transferring decedent’s house into a JTWROS. </span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">The QCD is dated a few days before the death and is signed by the decedent’s DPOA. The recording attorney signed as decedent/grantor’s “agent” on REETA. DPOA signed REETSS as Grantor signing decedent’s name
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Their Response to my TEDRA Petition argues that the attorney was not in conflict to serve as the decedent’s “agent” and that the decedent was part of this plan to transfer the house to JTWROS.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">I have searched but haven’t found anything on point - </span><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Does anyone have any case law or authority regarding them signing in this way? </span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Or that only the PR had the authority to record the document after death?</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Thanks in advance -</span></p>
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