<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><font size="4">Thank you so much for your help.<br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"></font><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">I firmly believe they back-dated the documents after he died. He died 10/5, the documents are dated 9/30.</font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">They were recorded 10/19.</font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">I have been told that only the P.R. has authority to record after death, but have not been able to find a citation on point.</font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">Amy</font></div><div><br><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: normal; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div><font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><i><br></i></font></div><div><font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><i>Amy J. Goertz, J.D.</i></font></div><div><font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><i>Goertz & Lambrecht PLLC</i></font></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><a href="mailto:amyjgoertz@icloud.com">amyjgoertz@icloud.com</a> </div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><br></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">1.888.926.2607 phone<br>1.877.684.1627 fax<br><br></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Address for correspondence:</div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">2829 S. Grand Blvd., Suite 303<br>Spokane, WA 99203 </div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><br></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Additional office locations:</div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">510 Bell Street<br>Edmonds, WA 98020</div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><br></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Goertz & Lambrecht PLLC</div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><a href="http://www.goertzlambrecht.com/">www.goertzlambrecht.com</a></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: normal;"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jun 25, 2024, at 12:21 PM, Mark Anderson <marka@mbaesq.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);">Here are my initial observations:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;"><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">A power of attorney is no longer effective after the principal has died. Thus, if it was signed after the principal's death, the REETA SS is invalid.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">In my view, the attorney was not empowered to sign as agent for the decedent. The only one authorized to give authority to the attorney to sign something on behalf of the decedent would be a court-appointed personal representative of the estate. If it were me, I would be awfully uncomfortable and reluctant to sign as agent for a person who is now deceased.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);">I reposted your question on the WSBA Real Property Listserv – I will let you know what I hear from them.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);">Mark B. Anderson<br></span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);">ANDERSON LAW FIRM PLLC<br>821 Dock St Ste 209 PMB 4-12<br>Tacoma, Washington 98402<br>+1 253-327-1750<br>+1 253-327-1751 (fax)<br><a href="mailto:marka@mbaesq.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 32, 96);">marka@mbaesq.com</span></a><br><a href="http://www.mbaesq.com/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 32, 96);">www.mbaesq.com</span></a><b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial Narrow", sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);">CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE<br></span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial Narrow", sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);">This transmission is confidential and is intended solely for the use of the individual named recipient. It may be protected by the attorney-client privilege, work product doctrine, or other confidentiality protection. If you are not the intended recipient, or the person responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, be advised that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify the sender via e-mail or by telephone at (253) 327-1750 that you have received the message in error, and then delete it. Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Amy Goertz<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, June 25, 2024 7:28 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[WSBAPT] Who Can Record QCD after death?<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">Good Morning,</span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">I am looking for some caselaw or authority regarding who can record a Quit Claim Deed after death of the Grantor.</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">Grantor died in an accident. Several days later, an attorney recorded a Quit Claim Deed transferring decedent’s house into a JTWROS. </span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">The QCD is dated a few days before the death and is signed by the decedent’s DPOA. The recording attorney signed as decedent/grantor’s “agent” on REETA. DPOA signed REETSS as Grantor signing decedent’s name as POA and as Grantee signing her own name.</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">Their Response to my TEDRA Petition argues that the attorney was not in conflict to serve as the decedent’s “agent” and that the decedent was part of this plan to transfer the house to JTWROS.</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">I have searched but haven’t found anything on point - </span><span style="font-size: 18pt;">Does anyone have any case law or authority regarding them signing in this way? </span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">Or that only the PR had the authority to record the document after death?</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">Thanks in advance -</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">Amy</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><i><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Lucida Calligraphy";">Amy J. Goertz, J.D.</span></i><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><i><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Lucida Calligraphy";">Goertz & Lambrecht PLLC</span></i><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:amyjgoertz@icloud.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">amyjgoertz@icloud.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;">1.888.926.2607 phone<br>1.877.684.1627 fax<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;">Address for correspondence:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;">2829 S. Grand Blvd., Suite 303<br>Spokane, WA 99203 <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;">Additional office locations:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;">510 Bell Street<br>Edmonds, WA 98020<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;">Goertz & Lambrecht PLLC<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; 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