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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrekita Silva<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 24, 2024 6:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Probate Listserve <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com>; MFry@hawleytroxell.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Fwd: Re: Presumption of Death after 7 years<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Law Office of F. Andrekita Silva
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">April 24, 2024</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Marcus,</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">In the past, I have filed a Motion for a Declaratory Judgment within an existing case.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I ask the judge for a judgment and order finding that XXX is deceased, based on the facts presented.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I ask for an order requiring the coroner to issue a death certificate.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Presumption of Death after 7 years</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Date: 2024-04-24 14:23</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">From: Marcus Fry <<a href="mailto:MFry@hawleytroxell.com">MFry@hawleytroxell.com</a>></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Reply-To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I can tell you I thought about using this statute in a missing trust</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">beneficiary case. What gives me pause is the tile of the Chapter-</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Uniform Simultaneous Death Act. Moreover, the majority of the</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Chapter’s provisions focus on minimum survival requirements. With</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">that said, the statute never actually limits the applicability of RCW</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">11.05A.050 (evidence of death) to simultaneous deaths.
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Let me know if you file a petition and make the argument of its</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">application.
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Best of luck,
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Marcus </span>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">From: <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">
wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> On Behalf Of Sarah Cuellar</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 1:34 PM</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Subject: [WSBAPT] Presumption of Death after 7 years
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">* NOTICE: EXTERNAL EMAIL *</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">All, </span>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Has anyone had experience using RCW 11.05A.050(5), which states that</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"[a]n individual whose death is not established under this section who</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">is absent for a continuous period of seven years, during which he or she</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">has not been heard from, and whose absence is not satisfactorily</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">explained after diligent search or inquiry, is presumed to be dead."? </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">How does one go about invoking this statute? Can I cite it in a Petition</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">for establishing probate to explain away a missing heir, or do I need to</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">move for a separate order (separate TEDRA case!?) that declares Heir A</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">deceased by reason of RCW 11.05A.050(5)? </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">My (free) caselaw databases don't return a single case that cites this</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Thanks for your time, </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
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