<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div><br></div><div><br></div>Hi Dalynne -<div><br></div><div>Thank you for your response.</div><div><br></div><div>Counsel for Attorney in Fact says that he met with the attorney in fact before the young man’s death and she signed the deed as POA and delivered it to him for recording.</div><div><br></div><div>So, he states that the deed was “delivered” but the actual recording was delayed because he was out of town.</div><div><br></div><div>I have done quite a bit of research and the cases I am finding where the Grantor signed a deed and delivered it to an attorney for later recording are deemed to have been “delivered” and are valid with the post-death recording.</div><div><br></div><div>Do you have speciffic authority when it is a POA rather than the Grantor? Because I have not been able to find that.</div><div><br></div><div>Amy</div><div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: normal; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div><font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><i><br></i></font></div><div><font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><i><br></i></font></div><div><font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><i>Amy J. Goertz, J.D.</i></font></div><div><font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><i>Goertz & Lambrecht PLLC</i></font></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><a href="mailto:amyjgoertz@icloud.com">amyjgoertz@icloud.com</a> </div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><br></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">1.888.926.2607 phone<br>1.877.684.1627 fax<br><br></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Address for correspondence:</div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">2829 S. Grand Blvd., Suite 303<br>Spokane, WA 99203 </div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><br></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Additional office locations:</div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">510 Bell Street<br>Edmonds, WA 98020</div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><br></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Goertz & Lambrecht PLLC</div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><a href="http://www.goertzlambrecht.com/">www.goertzlambrecht.com</a></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: normal;"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Mar 27, 2024, at 11:22 AM, Dalynne Singleton <dalynne@glgmail.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Book Antiqua", serif;">There is no authority to the POA agent to record after death… you should research this issue as I had this come up in several Estates in the past. Recording a deed after death, even if signed before death, is not appropriate and needs the PR to sign to record. In Washington state, if the grantor has passed away, the deed becomes void, and the property remains with the grantor’s estate. If the intention is for the property to go to the heirs of the deceased grantor, a new deed must be executed to convey it to them and would be signed by the PR of the Estate in that capacity. This legal principle ensures that property transfers are valid and properly documented. In your case, the wife is the PR and did not sign.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Book Antiqua", serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><i><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Book Antiqua", serif;">Dalynne Singleton</span></i></b><b><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Book Antiqua", serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Book Antiqua", serif;">Gourley Law Group<o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Book Antiqua", serif;">Snohomish Escrow<o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Book Antiqua", serif;">The Exchange Connection<o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Book Antiqua", serif;">1002 10<sup>th</sup><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Street / PO Box 1091<o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Book Antiqua", serif;">Snohomish, WA 98291<o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Book Antiqua", serif;">360.568.5065<o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Book Antiqua", serif;">360.568.8092 fax<o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Book Antiqua", serif;"><a href="mailto:dalynne@glgmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134);">dalynne@glgmail.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><u><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Book Antiqua", serif;">Website: <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></u><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Book Antiqua", serif;"><a href="http://www.glglawgroup.com/" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134);">www.glglawgroup.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Book Antiqua", serif;">Attorney/client meetings will be handled by teleconference or virtually whenever possible. 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Please respond to me directly as I am uncertain as to whether involved parties are on this list serve.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">Young man was in hospital several years ago and signed POA while recovering. Never revoked even though he was fully mentally capable.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">DPOA has a clause that states it is ok for Attorney-in-Fact to make transfers to self, specifically even states that AIF can gift or transfer real property to self.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">Attorney-in-Fact was signer on bank account as POA. Not beneficiary of account. POA used account to help pay bills for decedent.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">Young man bought a house, moved in with girlfriend, then married girlfriend.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">Shortly after marriage, young man died in tragic accident.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">After death, AIF transferred bank funds to self and recorded deed transferring house from young man’s name alone to his name with JTWROS with AIF. Deed has date before death, recorded after death. Prepared with signature line only for AIF.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">Probate started, wife is PR.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">AIF Counsel says deed was signed by AIF prior to young man’s death and was delivered to him for recording prior to death; says house is non probate asset.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">AIF has now brought eviction action to remove wife from house.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">Any thoughts? Input? I have drafted a Motion but would appreciate any thoughts or authority on this.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">Amy<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><i><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Lucida Calligraphy";">Amy J. Goertz, J.D.</span></i><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><i><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Lucida Calligraphy";">Goertz & Lambrecht PLLC</span></i><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:amyjgoertz@icloud.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">amyjgoertz@icloud.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;">1.888.926.2607 phone<br>1.877.684.1627 fax<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;">Address for correspondence:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;">2829 S. 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