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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sarah Cuellar<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 12, 2023 2:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Affidavit of Subscribing Witness<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have added this verbage to my GR17 affidavit to cover electronic signatures and have yet to receive any pushback (knock on wood): <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Electronically signed pursuant to Washington Supreme Court Order No. 25700-B-697 ¶16</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 12:54 PM Eric Nelsen <<a href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">GR 30 governs “electronic signatures” and has provisions on what to do about signatures of non-attorneys. See
<a href="https://www.courts.wa.gov/court_rules/pdf/GR/GA_GR_30_00_00.pdfhttps:/www.courts.wa.gov/court_rules/pdf/GR/GA_GR_30_00_00.pdf" target="_blank">
GR 30(d)(2)</a> subsections (B), (C), and (E). It refers to documents signed “under penalty of perjury” and I assume that means both declarations and notarized affidavits.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I agree with Mark though—I routinely ask for the wet ink to be mailed to me for my file.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Anderson<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060">It does not look like GR 17 actually covers scanned documents sent by email (in addition to fax). Should
someone be proposing a rule change?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060">I always ask an affiant/declarant to send me their original "wet ink" signed affidavit/declaration.
It may be slower, but it helps me control the process and the quality of the document if it is to be submitted/filed/recorded electronically.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt">I believe GR17's for the scanned and emailed signatures should do the trick?<br clear="all">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:10.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black">I have a will for admission to probate that has a defective notarization. I obtained affidavits from the two
subscribing witnesses. Question (1)Do I send the affidavits with the original will? I will be filing the petition online and sending the will via messenger. I reviewed RCW 11.20.020(2) and it states: </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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