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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">If the death is within the last 9 months, and Dad’s Will says kids inherit $100k each if wife doesn’t survive, it is worth looking at the option of a disclaimer by wife to preserve exemption and save the gift
tax return. If a disclaimer is not an option, I too vote with the “it’s a gift and just file a 709” and then quick change wife’s Will to remove them as beneficiaries in her Will.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Keep in mind that the federal estate/gift tax lifetime exemption this year is $12,920,000 and next year it will be $13,610,000.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The federal annual exclusion for gifts this year is $17,000, and next year will be $18,000. If you exceed those limits, then you eat into your $13.6MM exemption.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Usually not a problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Also keep in mind, if Wife makes a gift, it is a gift. No way to convert it into an inheritance. A TEDRA agreement that tries to describe it as an inheritance will be
disregarded if it is really not an inheritance, and in this situation a gift will not be an inheritance. Facts don’t support it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">For a longer explanation of the tax consequences of altering an estate plan after the death, see the following:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">There will be no gift implications to the recipients (assume WA residents).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">There will be, per the code, a tax filing requirement but most likely a zero-tax owed (unless already gifted over 12M each husband and wife). Form 709 – user friendly,
especially for cash gifts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I personally would consider a time value of money and would also formalize the advance in a brief TEDRA, which could also serve as a receipt.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Best of luck,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Script MT Bold"">Diane J. Kiepe<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">I’m thinking a little differently. If the wife wants to provide those monies now, then she should re-draft her Will and indicate the sons get nothing as they have been paid
$100k.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">Then, the sons sign a receipt for the gift of $100k each to the wife. Not sure if there would gift tax to benefit wife but you can check with CPA on that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">
wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Anderson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 5, 2023 1:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Advances on Inheritance<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060">Dear Listmates:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060">Husband and wife executed mutual wills under which a payout of $100,000 would be made to each of the husband's two sons, but only after both husband and wife had
died. This is all the sons would be entitled to under the wills. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060">The husband died. Husband's sons want to be paid now, rather than wait until after Wife dies. Wife (my Client) says that sufficient funds exist to do this and
is willing to make this happen.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060">My initial thought is to have my Client tender the money into my IOLTA trust account. I would then distribute the funds to the sons after having them each execute
a Receipt and a Release of the Estate and the Personal Representative (whoever that may be) for the advance. This will require some "custom" drafting of the Receipt and Release in that my Client has not yet died and so does not have a probate estate. I will
also recommend my Client that she update her existing estate planning documents to reflect the payments made and the release of any personal representative may be appointed for a probate estate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060">I have got some questions about this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Is this the best way to handle this advance?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#002060;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">What are the tax impacts, if any, for the Client?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#002060;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">What are the tax impacts, if any, for the recipients? (Just curious, in case they may want to reconsider their request to be paid now)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#002060;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Are there any other considerations in which I should be aware in dealing with this situation?<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060">In advance, thanks for your input on this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222A35">Mark B. Anderson<br>
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