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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The original post asked if there was a duty to notify the non-heir fiduciaries. Plural.
<span style="color:red">Yes, including <u>aunt</u>. Aunt is not an “heir.” He doesn’t want to notify
<u>her</u> (or maybe the others), thus the final sentence: “In this case, non[e]-of-them would take if the Will is invalidated.”<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Yes, I agree that aunt needs to be notified. After all, she is a devisee.
<span style="color:red">Precisely.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">But nothing prevents the child or the child’s attorney from working something out with the aunt.
<span style="color:red">Obviously.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">But if you work something out with her and she signs a declination, she is thereafter out of the picture.
<span style="color:red">Also, obviously.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span style="mso-ligatures:none"> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Philip N. Jones<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 2, 2023 11:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Notice of Probate to Non-Heir alternate PR/Trustee<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The original post asked if there was a duty to notify the non-heir fiduciaries. Plural.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Yes, I agree that aunt needs to be notified. After all, she is a devisee.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">But nothing prevents the child or the child’s attorney from working something out with the aunt.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">But if you work something out with her and she signs a declination, she is thereafter out of the picture.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Phil Jones<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none">Philip N. Jones<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none">Duffy Kekel LLP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">
<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joshua McKarcher<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 2, 2023 11:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Notice of Probate to Non-Heir alternate PR/Trustee<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I read Jeff to be asking if he even needs to notify
<u>Aunt</u> at all. Isn’t that your primary question, Jeff? If so, I have no idea how anyone does anything
<u>without</u> Aunt. If a judge permitted it, I would think the testator’s wishes would be rather spectacularly shredded. I would no more agree to help beneficiary avoid what I’m understanding are the facts than I would burn the will in my non-existent office
fireplace. Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but that’s my read.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">
<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Philip N. Jones<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 2, 2023 10:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Notice of Probate to Non-Heir alternate PR/Trustee<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I am not aware of any duty to notify the alternate fiduciaries. But nothing prevents you from notifying them, or contacting them informally. Or perhaps the child should
contact one or both. If an arrangement can be reached for one of them to serve, perhaps you or the child could contact the aunt and suggest that she decline. Who knows? Maybe the aunt doesn’t want to deal with the child and would jump at the chance to decline.
Perhaps the aunt was going to serve only out of a sense of obligation to her sister and would just as soon not serve. The only way to find out is to ask (politely).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Or the aunt might want to serve in order to lord over the child. Perhaps the decedent asked her sister to rule with an iron hand. In that case, you are probably stuck
with her. But the fact that you are willing to accept either one of the alternates helps your case. Particularly if the aunt is a convicted axe-murderer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Perhaps I am speculating.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Phil Jones<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none">Philip N. Jones<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none">Duffy Kekel LLP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none">900 S.W. Fifth Ave. Suite 2500<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none">Portland, OR 97204<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none"><a href="mailto:pjones@duffykekel.com">pjones@duffykekel.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none">(503) 226-1371 – office<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none">(503) 853-1482 – cell<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none">(503) 226-3574 - fax<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">
<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:Jeff@bellanddavispllc.com">Jeff@bellanddavispllc.com</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 2, 2023 9:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv' <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Notice of Probate to Non-Heir alternate PR/Trustee<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Listmates:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Decedent’s Will names the under 30 child PR. That child receives the entire estate. However, if child is under 35, the residue goes into trust. Aunt is first Trustee, and is not liked by child. There are two other alternate Trustees
which are acceptable. Is there a legal duty to notify these non-heir fiduciaries about the probate? In this case, non-of-them would take if the Will is invalidated.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jeff Davis<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">W. Jeff Davis<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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