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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Nelsen<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree that Option 2 does not work—Dad is disqualified under RCW 11.36.010(1) as “person of unsound mind” as the statute puts it. Even if Dad could serve, his core duties as PR are not delegable to D1 as his Conservator. It’s perhaps a
problem of redundancy: if Dad can’t perform any of his duties without D1’s help, why not appoint D1 directly? Just the fact that D1 would have to petition on Dad’s behalf would be enough to demonstrate that Dad can’t really serve as PR.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am guessing this is about whether or not notice of petition for NPs is required? I don’t think there is a way around it. You could get D1 appointed without NPs first, just to get her in place and she would have power to gather assets
and take control of the administration. Then petition for NPs separately with notice as required.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">
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<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Petition to letters of administration<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Dear All<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">I appreciate your advice on this matter.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Facts: Mother passed away, no Will, Dad is incapacitated. Court appointed one of their Daughters (D1) as Dad's Guardian and Conservator.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">D1 intends to petition the court to be the PR of her Mother's estate and seek nonintervention power. She can petition in her name (Option 1). My question is whether she can petition in her capacity as Guardian and Conservator of her
Dad (Option 2)? Option 2 makes the surviving spouse as the petitioner. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Since petitioner needs to sign an Oath, I think Option 2 does not work as Dad can’t give Oath. Am I missing anything? Any comments are greatly appreciated. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Thank you!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><i><span style="font-size:8.0pt">Yuping Wang<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Subject: [WSBAPT] Attorney to Advise Family with Alzheimer's Family<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Looking for attorney who can advise a son whose father has been diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease. He would like advice on how he can assist the father without disqualifying him from possible state assistance. Father will be moving
from out of state to Washington to be close to the son. Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Lovie<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 20:00:59 +0000<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">From: "Lewis, Amy C." <<a href="mailto:ALewis@Eisenhowerlaw.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">ALewis@Eisenhowerlaw.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] WSBAPT Digest, Vol 107, Issue 22<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Bill Viall<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Attorney<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Amy Lewis, Attorney<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] WSBAPT Digest, Vol 107, Issue 22<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Hello Listmates,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">I'm looking for a reputable attorney in Phoenix who to advise 88 year old with modifications to a Trust. I'd appreciate any contacts you can share.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Emily Wilson ? Attorney/Owner<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Spokane Wills, Trusts, and Probate<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Email: <a href="mailto:Emily@SpokaneWTP.com%3cmailto:Emily@SpokaneWTP.com">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Emily@SpokaneWTP.com<mailto:Emily@SpokaneWTP.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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