<div dir="ltr">Instructions for the SS-4 (paper form to get an EIN) show that you may be able to apply via phone if you have your client pre-sign the form authorizing you as the third party designee. From this webpage: <div><p class="gmail-inlinehd" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:10px 0px;display:inline;color:rgb(27,27,27);font-family:"Source Sans Pro",sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:700"><br></span></p></div><div><p class="gmail-inlinehd" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:10px 0px;display:inline;color:rgb(27,27,27);font-family:"Source Sans Pro",sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:700">Apply by telephone—option available to international applicants only.</span></p><span style="color:rgb(27,27,27);font-family:"Source Sans Pro",sans-serif;font-size:16px"> </span><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:10px 0px;display:inline;clear:right;color:rgb(27,27,27);font-family:"Source Sans Pro",sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="gmail-inlinep" style="box-sizing:border-box;display:inline">If you have NO legal residence, principal place of business, or principal office or agency in the U.S. or U.S. possessions, you may call 267-941-1099 (not a toll-free number), 6:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. (Eastern time), Monday through Friday, to obtain an EIN.</span></p><span style="color:rgb(27,27,27);font-family:"Source Sans Pro",sans-serif;font-size:16px"></span><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:10px 0px;color:rgb(27,27,27);font-family:"Source Sans Pro",sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="gmail-inlinep" style="box-sizing:border-box;display:inline">The person making the call must be authorized to receive the EIN and answer questions concerning Form SS-4. Complete the Third Party Designee section only if you want to authorize the named individual to receive the entity’s EIN and answer questions about the completion of Form SS-4. The designee’s authority terminates at the time the EIN is assigned and released to the designee. You must complete the signature area for the authorization to be valid.</span></p><div class="gmail-note" style="box-sizing:border-box;color:rgb(27,27,27);font-family:"Source Sans Pro",sans-serif;font-size:16px"><h3 class="gmail-title" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-family:inherit;line-height:1.36842;color:inherit;margin:5px 0px 15px;font-size:1rem;display:inline"><span class="gmail-inlinep" style="box-sizing:border-box;display:inline"><a name="idm139898072340272" id="gmail-idm139898072340272" href="https://www.irs.gov/instructions/iss4" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(0,89,156);line-height:1.5;display:inline"></a>Note.</span></h3> <p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 10px;display:inline"><span class="gmail-inlinep" style="box-sizing:border-box;display:inline">It will be helpful to complete Form SS-4 before contacting the IRS. An IRS representative will use the information from Form SS-4 to establish your account and assign you an EIN. Write the number you're given on the upper right corner of the form and sign and date it. Keep this copy for your records.</span></p></div><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:10px 0px;color:rgb(27,27,27);font-family:"Source Sans Pro",sans-serif;font-size:16px"> </p><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:10px 0px;color:rgb(27,27,27);font-family:"Source Sans Pro",sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="gmail-inlinep" style="box-sizing:border-box;display:inline">If requested by an IRS representative, mail or fax the signed Form SS-4 (including any third-party designee authorization) within 24 hours to the IRS address provided by the IRS representative.</span></p><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:10px 0px;color:rgb(27,27,27);font-family:"Source Sans Pro",sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="gmail-inlinep" style="box-sizing:border-box;display:inline"><img alt="This is an Image: caution.gif" class="gmail-mediaobject gmail-img-responsive" src="https://www.irs.gov/pub/xml_bc/caution.gif" style="box-sizing: border-box; border: 0px; vertical-align: middle; display: block; max-width: 100%; height: auto;"></span></p><div class="gmail-clearfix" style="box-sizing:border-box;color:rgb(27,27,27);font-family:"Source Sans Pro",sans-serif;font-size:16px"> </div><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:10px 0px;color:rgb(27,27,27);font-family:"Source Sans Pro",sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="gmail-inlinep" style="box-sizing:border-box;display:inline">The IRS no longer issues EINs by telephone for domestic taxpayers. Only international applicants can receive an EIN by telephone.</span></p></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 4:02 PM Ken Luce <<a href="mailto:Ken.Luce@lucelawfirm.com">Ken.Luce@lucelawfirm.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-4788786430122714932">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,34,40)">The PR is a Canadian citizen. The EIN number form won't accept his 9 digit soc number. Any Suggestions?Can I use a third partys soc sec
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