<div dir="ltr">I agree with the previous posters on the interpretation of the statue. Our practice is to mail the notices to known creditors 30 days before the end of the 4-month period. Mailing any earlier or later just gives the creditor more time to send in claims.<div><br></div><div>The question I asked earlier and never really got a firm response to was whether or not the CR 6 rules adding 3 days if notice is mailed and extending the deadline to the next business day if the deadline falls on a weekend or holiday applied to the creditor notice statute. There was some discussion of the applicability of the Stover case in Division 1, but if anyone has experience with rejecting a claim on the grounds that CR 6 doesn't apply, I would appreciate it.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 4:22 PM Roger Hawkes <<a href="mailto:roger@skyvalleylawyers.com">roger@skyvalleylawyers.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg6874820685683780574">
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think the statute says thirty days after mailing; but I would hate to rely on that.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree with Joshua. The phrase “the later of” means the creditor gets the benefit of the maximum available time under the two options. The statutory purpose is to avoid a scenario where the creditor receives actual notice, say, two days
before the deadline expires, and so make it virtually impossible for the creditor to timely respond. In other words: creditor gets a minimum of 30 days after actual receipt of notice to file a claim, or maximum of within four months after publication, whichever
is more.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Sincerely,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Eric<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Eric C. Nelsen<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I can think of no other way to read the statute. I time the known creditor notices for about 35-40 days before the 4-month deadline so that I know they’re all due on that
date. The 30-day rule is for those served 29 or fewer days (or after) the 4-month deadline. If anyone thinks otherwise, I may have to unsubscribe from this list before I get banned.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Need to settle a debate about whether a known creditor timely filed their claim. Estate published notice to creditors. Known Creditor given actual notice of their duty to file their claim “within the later of: (1) 30 days after PR served
or mailed the notice to creditor; or (2) 4 months after date of first publication of the notice. Creditor’s claim was filed within the 4 month period after first publication. I say that “within the later of” means a creditor given actual notice can take
advantage of the 4 month period to file their claim. The push back is what is the reason for the 30 day period then? Your thoughts.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jeff Davis<u></u><u></u></p>
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